Our Neighbor The Tacoma Totem Pole
by takhoman on 6/4/2013 @ 5:08am
Great job R.R. But remember in Tacoma what city staff wants city staff gets. BE A SOT! SAVE OUR TOTEM!
by Jesse on 6/4/2013 @ 7:37am
|There's a lot of ways to extend the life of this pole outdoors or just bring the dang thing inside if they're so certain it's going to rot outside. This is just an instance where the city will have to be pushed off of their laziness to do the right thing.|
by captiveyak on 6/4/2013 @ 8:09am
today's discussion at 2:30. Regardless of the outcome, the pole will still be a historic landmark. a recommendation concerning its status as "public art" - which has no bearing on its status as a protected landmark - may be reached to present to the public for comment and then to Council.
Whoa! Slow down City! You are moving so hastily on stuff and we can not keep up. Whoa whoa whoa.
by NineInchNachos on 6/4/2013 @ 8:24am
|I bet City is already thinking up decomposing internment plots. I recommend camp 6!
by NineInchNachos on 6/4/2013 @ 8:29am
|"SITE ALTERATION FOR SITE INTEGRATED ARTWORK IF THE SITE FOR WHICH A PIECE OF ARTWORK WAS SPECIFICALLY CREATED IS STRUCTURALLY DAMAGED OR OTHERWISE ALTERED SO THAT IT CAN NO LONGER ACCOMMODATE THE WORK OR IF THE PIECE IS MADE PUBLICLY INACCESSIBLE BY A CHANGE IN ITS SURROUNDING ENVIRONMENT SUCH AS NEW CONSTRUCTION OR DEMOLITION THAT ARTWORK MAY BE CONSIDERED FOR DEACCESSION"|
the site is indeed being altered... State Farm is moving in and saying: 'hey city clean up your crap!'
by takhoman on 6/4/2013 @ 8:33am
For more fodder go to:
And who cares who gets the credit for saving the pole.
Join The SOTS!
by NineInchNachos on 6/4/2013 @ 8:39am
|(permalink! www.thenewtakhoman.com/060413.html )
by nate.marshall1 on 6/4/2013 @ 8:54am
|Lets fight fire with fire to save the Totem Pole. (And by fire I mean greed based dollar thought with greed based dollar thought as opposed to the perservation of historic or artisitc history this town needs) Why don't we arrange to "Rent" The Totem Pole to Clear Channel to use as a sign post.
It would NEVER get taken down that way.....
Clearly I am joking here.
When I first moved to Tacoma I fell in love with downtown, and the totel pole was one of what I considerd the hidden gems of the city's downtown landscape. Its rare to see such a beautifuly tall bit of native art and histry in our area anymore. We should be preserving it ( I even say comission another to stand another 100 years at the opposite end of the park and make it a piece of heritage art)
by Erik on 6/4/2013 @ 9:06am
<i>today's discussion at 2:30. Regardless of the outcome, the pole will
still be a historic landmark. a recommendation concerning its status as
"public art" - which has no bearing on its status as a protected
landmark - may be reached to present to the public for comment and then
Whoa! Slow down City! You are moving so hastily on stuff and we can not keep up. Whoa whoa whoa.</i>
Yes, the tentacles of the City of Tacoma are moving at breakneck speed to remove and/or destroy the totem pole. Having the totem pole "deaccessed" would take the totem pole out of the City of Tacoma's art collection, removing a level of protection for it.
At the very least, the Totem Pole is a 110 year old Fireman's Park is a Tacoma historical artifact and deserves to live, be maintained, and restored where it is without being razed by the Luzon.
As Callaghan pointed out in his article, totem poles are not "left to rot" usually. Instead, Alaska spends a great deal of time and effort maintaining and repairing totem poles. A new concept to the city.
Here is some of the methods they use to repair them:
Totem Pole Maintenance
Conservators Ellen Carrlee and Ron Sheetz at the Governor’s Totem Pole, Juneau, Alaska in May 2010
Southeast Alaska is the land of totem poles. These iconic outdoor
sculptures are powerful, valuable, and remarkably vulnerable. The
Tongass National Forest, covering 80% of Southeast Alaska, is a
temperate (cool) rainforest, with precipitation between 80 and 100
inches per year in most places where totem poles are made and
displayed. (In comparison, Seattle’s annual precipitation is usually
under 40”.) Imagine placing a wooden pole in the ground and exposing it
to the weather for decades. Utility poles, which are heavily
impregnated with preservative chemicals, typically last 25-50 years in
much less aggressive conditions. Most totem poles are not treated with
preservatives when they are erected.
Ron Sheetz applies water repellent
I’ve been involved in the maintenance of several totem poles, and in
May 2010 had the great pleasure of working with Ron Sheetz, retired
National Parks Service conservator who specializes in furniture and
wooden objects. Ron has treated well over 50 totem poles in the past
20+ years, and is a wealth of useful information and experience. We
agreed it might be useful to have basic totem pole maintenance
instructions on the internet. Ron also wrote a Conserve-O-Gram for the
National Parks Service a few years back called “Protecting Wood with
Preservative and Water Repellents” available at www.nps.gov/museum/publications/conserve...
SUMMARY: If you are responsible for the care of a
totem pole in an outdoor environment, a maintenance/inspection schedule
should be developed and carried out. Inspections should check for loose
parts, damage, and signs of decay or insect infestation. Borates and
water repellent should be periodically applied. Borates help protect
against rot and insects, but are water soluble. Water repellent
protects the pole and prevents the borates from washing out with the
rain. The application of borates and water repellent should occur every
3 – 5 years, depending on when the water repellents have worn off
(water no longer beads up on the surface of the wood.) If the totem
will be moved it is recommended to contact the Native community to allow
them the opportunity to comment and to be involved with the
preservation process. Moisture management is key to preservation.
Proper drainage around the base of the pole and lead or copper caps at
the top help preserve the wood. Typically, if you set aside a week to
do the work, that’s plenty of time and allows for vagrancies of
by NineInchNachos on 6/4/2013 @ 9:31am
still like MofoFromTheHood's comment that this is just one big
conspiracy to obtain historically significant wood chipper mulch for the
Pac Ave rain gardens
by captiveyak on 6/4/2013 @ 9:50am
|well, i'm not going to go on the internet anymore and make the "ridiculous" claim that the city will do something reasonable and correct. Apparently the internet is the wrong place to say anything nice about the City. The default consensus here is that if we can screw something up, spoil something beautiful, etc... we will - without good intent, without consideration, without public input, etc. Despite any and all evidence to the contrary. It's just a faulted paradigm that's not worth confronting.|
by NineInchNachos on 6/4/2013 @ 9:52am
|JinxMedic! what have you done with Mr. Rahe?|
(look forward to Lewis Kamb's summary of the meeting... I still believe in you folks!)
by NineInchNachos on 6/4/2013 @ 10:01am
by cisserosmiley on 6/4/2013 @ 11:20am
|WE should try selling it on eBay first, if no one buys it then fix it.|
by NineInchNachos on 6/4/2013 @ 1:37pm
|Individual citizens should try selling the pole to tourists
by takhoman on 6/4/2013 @ 2:18pm
My brother and I have a personal interest in that pole as it is part of our family history. Sell it over our dead bodies.
by cisserosmiley on 6/4/2013 @ 2:33pm
|FOR SALE !!! I think "vintage" is a play on historic ?|
by Xeno on 6/4/2013 @ 3:19pm
|Erik, it is very true totem poles are not left to rot but the disgraceful maintenance history of this pole has put it in another category than even Callaghan can attest to. I have heard stories that they used to have citizen groups that would repaint the totem in pastels. Who let that happen? The entire inner portion has apparently cored out. How many more stints and bars can we put in this thing before it isn't even a totem anymore? I'd say given the damage, this is too little too late. It saddens me that preventative measures could have probably have been taken earlier, but do we invest in a future pole or invest in rot?|
Funny thing is this isn't the first time the City has lost a totem pole. Few will remember the Cushman Totem that was near the old Cushman building on Duct Cho Street. The Puyallup Tribe put that Totem to rest. All in all I think a new totem should be commissioned and under better pretenses than Callaghan's ridiculous notion of defending kitcsh. Kickstarter totem style!
by NineInchNachos on 6/4/2013 @ 6:27pm
|THE TACOMIC chalks up another VICTORY! |
by NineInchNachos on 6/4/2013 @ 6:28pm
|Tourists $$$ ! |
by cisserosmiley on 6/4/2013 @ 9:05pm
|WE could easily make a mold & cast a permanent totem replica in fiberglass resin.|
by Mofo from the Hood on 6/5/2013 @ 6:22am
|Totem poles are false idols. Rational minds look to trees chainsaw-carved into bears.|
by NineInchNachos on 6/5/2013 @ 7:19am
|many totem poles are of bears
by NineInchNachos on 6/5/2013 @ 7:23am
|THE CONSPIRACY IS REAL!!!! |
by Mofo from the Hood on 6/5/2013 @ 8:17am
|Totem poles are like bureaucracies. Every now and then you gotta get rid of the dead wood.|
by NineInchNachos on 6/5/2013 @ 12:49pm
by takhoman on 6/6/2013 @ 9:37am
Tacoma District #2 Council candidate Lecy-Davis speaks to the issues
For the June 6, 2013 edition of The New Takhoman click the link below.
Comments always welcome.
RR featured AGAIN!
by NineInchNachos on 6/14/2013 @ 8:07am
by takhoman on 6/14/2013 @ 8:24am
|If city staff comes up with the money and a plan before the pole rots through. Keep up the pressure. SOT's forever!
by captiveyak on 6/14/2013 @ 9:09am
|they kept me from destroying this totem pole. but the next one won't be so lucky.|
by NineInchNachos on 6/15/2013 @ 7:40am
by Erik on 9/26/2013 @ 12:32pm
|Saved at last from being turned into mulch!|
Downtown Tacoma’s 110-year-old totem pole will be saved — at least for now — by erecting a shorter, metal pole beside it.Members of the Tacoma Landmarks Preservation Commission approved a plan Wednesday to install a steel support system next to the 80-foot-tall wooden totem pole in Fireman’s Park to keep it from falling over.
The city will attach a 50-foot-tall steel pole in two spots on the back of the wooden landmark, which stands near 9th and A streets in downtown Tacoma.The design favored by the commissioners uses bolts and steel plates to join the totem pole to the support structure, but avoids encircling the carved totem pole with metal cuffs, as an alternate idea would have.
by NineInchNachos on 10/14/2013 @ 11:02am