LIARS: Calling for Eric Anderson, Police Chief Ramsdell, and Spokesman Fulghum Immediate Resignations

Zina Linnik Amber Alert Failure Cover-up Conspiracy
posted Apr 26, 2011
Tacomic, Tacoma, Corruption, Scandal, Murder, Lies, City Manager Eric Anderson, Police Chief Ramsdell, Spokesman Mark Fulghum, system failure
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If tonight's Tacomic does not force some resignations, I don't know what will. Yes, falling asleep instead of issuing an Amber Alert while Zina Linnik was being raped and murdered (murdered and raped?) is rotten, but hey we're human beings and systems fail. However to LIE about it long-long after by making up a story about the Amber Alert being delayed because of crack-ace police work is a giant LOAD of CLASS-A BIO SOLIDS.  As a hard-boiled columnist for the Tacoma News Tribune writes: Honesty took a nap after Zina Linnik's Murder

Let's review the Tacoma Police Department's Core Values:
  • Act With Integrity
  • Respect For Our Employees and Citizens
  • Service To Our Community
  • Accountability For Our Actions and Results
  • Team For The Common Good
  • Innovate To Better Serve
  • Reverence For The Law
MEANWHILE: The New Takhoman, no stranger to unfortunate life choices by Tacoma Police Chiefs (Today is the Brame Murder/Suicide Aniversary) writes: 

New Takhoman calls for Anderson, Ramsdell, Fulghum immediate resignations

Once again the dysfunctional family known as the Tacoma Police Department (TPD) is trying to cover their inept collective ass, i.e.: the Brame murder/suicide in 2003. In 2007 the department claimed they didn't issue an Amber Alert in a timely manner of the abduction of 12 year old Zina Linnik because they 'thought' they had the prime suspect in hand. But yesterday, due to depositions in a lawsuit brought against the city by the Linnik family, it has come to light, that because police spokesman Mark Fulghum was literally asleep on the job (FAA worker status?) the Amber Alert was delayed for another six hours. City attorney Jean P. Homan, who has been tasked to defend TPD's actions, and we wish her luck, was quoted in yesterday's News Tribune as saying, 'Employing the Amber Alert system is voluntary and the city cannot be held liable for not issuing the alert within four hours when the city is not required to issue an Amber Alert at all.'
If that is the case why did Fulghum and five, yes five, TPD detectives attend Amber Alert training on the taxpayer's dime in May of 2007 in Hawaii no less? Would a timely Amber Alert have saved Zina's life? According to the powers to be the answer is no. But that's not the point. The point is why didn't TPD Chief Ramsdell, Fulghum and City Manager Eric Anderson tell the truth and come clean in 2007? For those answers we have to go to them and if they didn't come clean the first time around what are the chances they will come clean this time around? Zero to none, except for one slim possibility. Yesterday The New Takhoman filed an ethics complaint with the City on the basis of 'did Ramsdell, Anderson and Fulghum violate the city's ethics code by lying, obfuscating or being untruthful when responding to the media and the public in 2007?' And our questions don't stop there. After the costly 2007 Hawaii Amber Alert training did TPD pay consultant Barbara McMahon a $160 an hour to put the departments Amber Alert policy in place? And yes Dear Readers we are following up on that. She is a consultant that was hired in 2004 to follow up on the Brame travesty and now shows up daily at TPD at $180 an hour.
According to our sources it is McMahon and not Ramsdell who is running the department. But that is an issue for another time. Or is it News Tribune? We have never been shy in stating that David Brame's number one minion Don Ramsdell never should have become Tacoma's Chief of Police. Also according to our sources if you are not on Ramsdell's 'Friends and Family plan', another Brame trait, you can kiss any promotion goodbye. And herein, the same highly paid city officials, i.e. City Attorney Pauli, the same people assigned to clean this mess up, are the same people who denied that City of Tacoma Human Resources Director asked to have then Tacoma Police Chief David Brame's gun and badge pulled on April 25, 2003 less than 24 hour before he shot his wife Crystal and took his own life. So with all of the above said The New Takhoman is calling for the immediate self imposed resignations of Tacoma City manager Eric Anderson, Tacoma Police Chief Don Ramsdell and TPD Public Information Officer Mark Fulghum.
However being realistic we know that is not going to happen.
But we will predict that Anderson and Ramsdell will stay and Fulghum will become the sacrificial lamb and TPD's 'Blue Coat Flu' culture will not change in the near future.

ALSO ALSO: Fredo is disappointed at Mayor Strickland.

by cisserosmiley on 4/26/2011 @ 7:26am
tacoma is the most post-apocalyptic place there has ever been before an apocalypse happened

by NineInchNachos on 4/26/2011 @ 7:54am
today on the New Takhoman:

"Eight years ago today Tacoma Police Chief David Brame shot his wife Crystal and took his own life. Brame’s best buddy Don Ramsdell became Tacoma’s Police Chief by default. And for all the taxpayer’s dollars spent and all the ink expended the TPD “Blue Coat Flu” management culture has not changed. Former Mayor Bill Baarsma has yet to apologize for publically calling Brame the “best police chief Tacoma ever had”. Elizabeth Pauli is still our City Attorney who claims the head of Human Resources never called for Brame’s badge and gun. And now that same city attorney has been charged to defend your town in the 2007 abduction and murder of 12 year old Zina Linnik. What’s wrong with this picture Tacoma? Today at noon Dear Readers take a moment, bow your head, and give a prayer in remembrance to both Crystal and Zina. And if your pocketbook can handle it give a donation to the Crystal Judson Family Justice Center. "

by NineInchNachos on 4/26/2011 @ 7:55am
Alison Whiteman: "How do domestic violence victims or any victims ever trust the TPD again if these two are not either removed or demoted or disciplined? A child's life was lost. In addition to lying, statements were signed by these people that were blatant lies. If we cannot trust the people in power, who can we trust? Where is the accountability? In any other city there would be punishment. Even Seattle's police department is reviewing current policies in the aftermath of the wood carver shooting. Seattle has a minor amount of problems in comparison to a city just forty or so minutes to the south. Why are we a continual source of national corruption? Why are we such a shame filled city?"

by NineInchNachos on 4/26/2011 @ 8:01am
from my facebook...

Britton wrote: "This is why Cartoonists are the first to be rounded up and shot. If you go missing RR, I will avenge you. I agree with you completely and please do not let this issue go away...Wow. Tacoma needs some flashlights shined on this!!!"

by fredo on 4/26/2011 @ 8:02am
These people were all appointed, directly or indirectly, by the Tacoma City Council. So I guess it could be fairly said that the voters are responsible too.

Elect some "good ole boys and girls" and expect government transparency? seriously?

Has it occurred to anyone that the goup of Tacomans least outraged by the Fulghum/Ramsdale scandal is the city council?
Not a peep at city hall. How about putting Anderson's/Fulghum's/Ramsdell's jobs on the agenda for next Tuesdays council meeting?

And thanks for the great Tacomic RR, really brings the issues into focus.

by cisserosmiley on 4/26/2011 @ 8:27am
good point fredo...this council knows it has been elected by about 25% of voters...if everyone were to vote then at least i would sleep at night knowing WE got what we asked for...a voter registration drive is probably the scariest thing for current politicians

by NineInchNachos on 4/26/2011 @ 8:27am
this cartoon is already making an impact!

by NineInchNachos on 4/26/2011 @ 8:31am
also, just sayin...

by Jesse on 4/26/2011 @ 8:34am
Considering that the first couple of hours are super critical when a child is abducted, as the kid is usually murdered within a few hours, this is a huge deal. No one knew that Zina was murdered so quickly after her kidnapping so a cop falling asleep like that is inexcusable... and for anyone to defend it is sick.

by Jesse on 4/26/2011 @ 8:36am
A secret, ANY secret, is something we're not entirely proud of... that's why it ends up a secret.

by cisserosmiley on 4/26/2011 @ 8:42am
the city council should resign

by fredo on 4/26/2011 @ 8:42am
"No one knew that Zina was murdered so quickly after her kidnapping"

That's never been confirmed.

by Jesse on 4/26/2011 @ 8:45am
Wasn't it said that she was murdered within the hour of her abduction?

I know most abductions that end in murder have the murder happening usually a few hours after the abduction. That makes the first few hours so crucial. That being, SLEEPING through those few hours is inexcusable if you are tasked with upholding the law and saving lives.

by fredo on 4/26/2011 @ 8:47am
It was said, it wasn't confirmed.

by NineInchNachos on 4/26/2011 @ 8:47am
re: Zina's last 15 min.... all we have is the word of a pedo killer in survival mode. That's the city lawyer lawsuit defense.


by NineInchNachos on 4/26/2011 @ 8:48am
"In my opinion, this is a significant breech of public trust," Mello said. "We need to do something in public to demonstrate that lying is never tolerated -- lying to the public, to the media, to the city council is never, ever OK."

Read more:

by thriceallamerican on 4/26/2011 @ 8:54am
Anagrammed TPD core values: "A rat, sir".

by Mofo from the Hood on 4/26/2011 @ 8:57am
Lying is never, ever OK?

by captiveyak on 4/26/2011 @ 8:58am
i can state absolutely factually that there isn't a single member of city council who fears or would discourage greater voter turn out. The ones i speak with treat their job with the same community-focused zeal any advocate/activist does, and would be thrilled to see greater citizen engagement.

Also, most of the current council had little if nothing to do with the actual decisions and procedures that led to the actual tragedies. And to say so is not diminishing the enormity of those tragedies.

What would mr. Hathaway have us do? Get a new city gov't every week until even the sins of the Huns have been atoned?

by fredo on 4/26/2011 @ 8:59am
Mello's statement is OK, but he's the least powerful member of the council. He's an appointee whose term expires in just a few months.

by NineInchNachos on 4/26/2011 @ 8:59am
never ever ever.

by KevinFreitas on 4/26/2011 @ 9:02am
re: Zina's last 15 min.... all we have is the word of a pedo killer in survival mode. That's the city lawyer lawsuit defense.

Couldn't agree more @RR. There's no way of knowing if an earlier Amber Alert could've saved this child's life but there's zero excuse (sleeping on the job included) this didn't go out sooner.

by NineInchNachos on 4/26/2011 @ 9:05am
meanwhile it's good to have this horrible person off the streets

by fredo on 4/26/2011 @ 9:11am
"Out, damn'd spot! out, I say!—One; two: why, then
'tis time to do't.—Hell is murky.—Fie, my lord, fie, a soldier, and
afeard? What need we fear who knows it, when none can call our
pow'r to accompt?—Yet who would have thought the old man to
have had so much blood in him?" Lady MacBeth

No amount of washing will ever remove Zina Linnik's blood from our current city administration. Time for the Council to remove Anderson, Ramsdell, and Fulghum. Perhaps others as well.

by NineInchNachos on 4/26/2011 @ 9:36am
CaptiveYak makes a good point... Current city council isn't in on the LIES. They don't even have to put up with them! Thanks Jake Fey and Ryan Mello for at least having upset tummies about this disgraceful affair. Perhaps we can instill human values into Eric Anderson with your closed-door clockwork orange eye machine screen session today.

by NineInchNachos on 4/26/2011 @ 9:46am

Jennifer B : I don't have anything rational to say about this, but I am glad there are people who do. Terrific cartoon, RR.

by fredo on 4/26/2011 @ 9:55am
"Current city council isn't in on the LIES."

Nachos, that hasn't been confirmed. We don't how deep the lies go.

We do know this. No city council person has been sufficiently interested in the oddly inconsistant facts surrounding the Zina Linnik investigation and the time descrepencies. The council members could have and should have launched their own investigation. For four years there has been a tell-tale heart pounding beneath the floor boards at city hall and no one has taken time out of their parking lot building, reconciliation park creating, electric car buying routine to investigate the pounding.

It can no longer be ignored.

by cisserosmiley on 4/26/2011 @ 10:19am
a whole list of ways people have been kept from voting...just because todays chapter in tacoma history is yet unwritten does not give anyone the right to disparage the basis of american democracy - be suspicious of your elected officials and the PR wonks they employee to skew your bloggoinfo

by fredo on 4/26/2011 @ 10:29am
ixia, third time in a row we agree!

by NineInchNachos on 4/26/2011 @ 10:29am
Where are you Strickland? Walker?

by ixia on 4/26/2011 @ 10:35am
Sorry, nixed that because I think it is rolling now. I think we can say good bye Mr. Anderson, fare well!

by fredo on 4/26/2011 @ 10:40am
Stickland's legacy may be defined by her decision on the Zina Linnik investigation cover-up.

Well Marilyn, what's your decision,


by NineInchNachos on 4/26/2011 @ 10:41am
eh? eh???

by ixia on 4/26/2011 @ 10:55am
I wonder if Elizabeth Pauli will end up defending Ramsdell and Fulghum for knowingly leaving out facts from the police report and conspiring to keep the public and the council in the dark for four years. That would be beyond cynical, even for Tacoma.

by NineInchNachos on 4/26/2011 @ 11:06am
Elizabeth Pauli is putting her reputation on the word of a psychotic child killer... or using the killer's word as a defense to minimize the amber alert 'what if' at any rate it's sick and reprehensible

by NineInchNachos on 4/26/2011 @ 11:14am
wow! from Facebook:

Claudia Riedener: Most important cartoon to date, thank you RR

by fredo on 4/26/2011 @ 11:15am

...Then he got an idea!
An awful idea!

"I know just what to do!" The Chief Laughed in his throat.
And he made up a lie that he thought just might float.
And he chuckled, and clucked, "What a great Chiefy thriller!
"We'll pretend we were looking for little Zina's killer"

All I need is a good lie..."
The Chief looked around.
But since good lies are scarce, there was none to be found.
Did that stop the old Chief...?
No! The Chief simply said,
"If I can't find a good lie, I'll make one instead!"
So he called his dog Eric (Fulghum wouldn't awaken)
And they hid the bottle of Nyquil that Fulghum had taken."

by ixia on 4/26/2011 @ 11:23am
"How disciplinary matters are handled by the city manager is a legitimate concern of ours," Fey said
"The City of Tacoma does not have a comprehensive employee evaluation process in place" Eric Anderson

by NineInchNachos on 4/26/2011 @ 11:27am
Eric Anderson disciplinary action = "NOOGIE"

by fredo on 4/26/2011 @ 11:41am
RR asked for the three to resign.

Why haven't they? Don't each of them have enough money in the bank, enough second homes, enough lifetime pension and healthcare coverage? Do they think in the future people won't question their integrity? What can possibly be salvaged?

Dragging this out will lead to no other possible outcome. They fabricated an elaborate lie, presumably to prevent the TPD from being embarrased. Had they just admitted that the department had a failed Amber Alert policy that would need major refinement and that the alert didn't go out because of a sleepy officer, all would have been forgiven.

The elaborate lie to conceal this is what is inexplicable. No one really benefited from the lie. It just brought more shame on our city.

by NineInchNachos on 4/26/2011 @ 11:47am
if they just came clean... maybe the family would feel more understanding. Lies only make you look bad.... especially in lawsuits.

by NineInchNachos on 4/26/2011 @ 11:48am
when confronted with this info the City Managers stone-cold denial of any wrong is flabbergasting

by NineInchNachos on 4/26/2011 @ 11:50am
hopefully this cartoon and the embedded SEO will act as a scarlet letter of shame following them and their future career paths FOREVER or as long as kevin pays his hosting bill.

by fredo on 4/26/2011 @ 11:52am
What other TPD lies haven't been exposed yet because people haven't gotten a good lawyer to take depositions? Or is it possible that this is the only lie? Can Ramsdell fit any more skeleton's in his closet?

by NineInchNachos on 4/26/2011 @ 11:55am

Anders wrote: "Thanks for your relentless attention to this absolutely disgraceful tragedy, Ryan."

by NineInchNachos on 4/26/2011 @ 12:00pm

by NineInchNachos on 4/26/2011 @ 12:49pm
got some good pics of a Zina Linnik impromptu memorial that sprouted in the footprint of the Luzon

by NineInchNachos on 4/26/2011 @ 12:55pm

"Eric Anderson has betrayed the public trust for far too long. Between his lack of judgement on accepting a $70,000 pay raise during an economic recession, to unilaterally letting the Luzon building collapse, to covering up an act of deception in the police force, Anderson has shown that he has no regard for the truth or common good.

Terminating him - without any "golden parachute" severance package - doesn't go far enough. We need to ensure that bureaucrats can never again amass that kind of uncontested, uncontrollable power.

I believe our recent history with unaccountable city managers like Anderson and Corpuz should prove to anyone that the council-manager system is just as political as the administration of any elected mayor. The difference is, the people can fire a bad mayor. Nine part-time politicians with staggered terms, who are fed selective information from city staff who work for the city manager, are in no position to hold him accountable. That's what makes it a bad system.

A mayor-council system is not a silver bullet. But it is a start."

by NineInchNachos on 4/26/2011 @ 4:45pm
what is that?

A tiny ghost in the machine...

by fredo on 4/26/2011 @ 5:58pm
Dateline Tacoma WA 4/26/11

The public is outraged by the lies, but the city council has just announced that it is closing the investigation into the Anderson/Ramsdell/Fulghum claim that Zina's Amber Alert was delayed for 6 hours so investigators could "do more investigation." In reality the person who was supposed to be turning in the amber alert was snoozing.

So I guess we would have to say the city council decided such a fabrication was BUSINESS AS USUAL in the City of Tacoma.

Ironically, for the little Russian girl, the City of Destiny really lived up to it's name.

by Crenshaw Sepulveda on 4/26/2011 @ 7:23pm
Make no small plans.

by jenyum on 4/26/2011 @ 7:33pm


by fredo on 4/26/2011 @ 7:47pm
"In my opinion, this is a significant breech of public trust," Mello said. "We need to do something in public to demonstrate that lying is never tolerated -- lying to the public, to the media, to the city council is never, ever OK." Ryan Mello

This guy is making a name for himself as someone who talks a good game in the press but when the time comes to summon a quorum on the council he folds up like a tent from KMart.

by ixia on 4/26/2011 @ 7:58pm
The Tacoma Police lies with impunity. Unbelievable. If such a gigantic public lie is tolerated, I don't want to know what else is going on inside the TPD. This is a free for all to fill out police reports as they look best for the cops.
All of us who are engaged and pay attention and volunteer to make this town a more livable place deserve better than what we got today. We deserve a council and a police force with integrity. That is not too much to ask!

by fredo on 4/26/2011 @ 8:07pm
Wait till people in prison learn that a TPD officer who might have testified against them has now admitted to lying on a police report. This is a get-out-of-jail free card for them...then another suit against the city of Tacoma.

Mayor Strickland promised shift would happen...and now she's fulfilling her pledge!

by ixia on 4/26/2011 @ 8:12pm
Sure, every single police report under Ramsdell is suspect. If I was a defense lawyer, I’d go though the books immediately. And then start suing; else the truth won’t come out.

by gritz thekat on 4/26/2011 @ 8:13pm
litter box roca on the whole tpd

by NineInchNachos on 4/26/2011 @ 9:40pm
oh the fuckers.

“We had a long conversation with the city manager and we made it clear to him that communications need to be better.”

But, speaking on behalf of the council at large, Strickland added the matter has been “thoroughly investigated and vetted,” saying that no further personnel or disciplinary action needs to be taken to restore the city’s relationship with its citizens.

Read more:

by NineInchNachos on 4/26/2011 @ 9:47pm
Here's what happened in the closed door session. Eric Anderson basically said he controls the spice production in Tacoma. He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing.

coup d'état.

good night

by NineInchNachos on 4/26/2011 @ 10:33pm
celebrity facebook comments!

Michael Sean Sullivan: Sadly TPD feels forced into becoming a secret society and is OK with it. They are focused on closing around a brother instead of openly expressing remorse over an operational breakdown that cost an innocent child her life. There are good people who are cops but the organization they belong to is breaking down.

by Tupolev Bear Bomber on 4/27/2011 @ 2:20am
I think its awesome that David Brame was our police chief, and his memory should be something all Tacoman's can rally around and be proud of.

by NineInchNachos on 4/27/2011 @ 7:57am
Just change name of Zina's new park to "Zina Linnik Reconciliation Park" problem solved! Eyes forward, move ahead. Give the past the slip. HAPPY BRAMEIVERSARY!

by NineInchNachos on 4/27/2011 @ 8:09am
we get more facebook comments:

"Jamie Chase RR- I stopped buying and reading the TNT one day when the front page contained no locally produced content, photo or article. Now I literally read your cartoons to stay abreast of thought provoking topics. Then I reach out to community leaders for supplemental data. That said, your cartoon broke this news! Thank you for what you do."

by NineInchNachos on 4/27/2011 @ 8:32am
Leslie Ann Rose: Appalling. The public was misinformed but, according to Mr. Anderson, we were not lied to. Withholding facts is not lying. Lesson learned. Begs the question: "How many more half-truths are we being governed under?"

by NineInchNachos on 4/27/2011 @ 8:33am
Leslie Ann Rose: The legacy of Tacoma's colorful political history is alive and well in the old Medical Arts Bldg.

by fredo on 4/27/2011 @ 8:37am
Nachos- Same thing happens on my facebook.

Every time I open it up...there's another admirer telling me how wonderful the world has become since they started reading my postings. Gives me a good feeling when everyone tells me how wonderful I am and how glorious life is now that I'm providing amazing content.

by NineInchNachos on 4/27/2011 @ 8:42am

by NineInchNachos on 4/27/2011 @ 9:13am
Claudia wrote:
"Strickland is eyeing her next job - County Executive perhaps? She needs to prove to her peers in power that she can stand behind a man and back him up no matter what. She backed up sound transit against the wishes of Tacoma. It’s this lack of integrity that hurts Tacoma over and over. I am so sick of it!"

by fredo on 4/27/2011 @ 9:29am
Strickland's legacy:

New furniture
Arizona boycott
Increase tax for Pierce Transit (failed)
Cut libraries to fund city raises
$700K parking lot giveaway
Raid disabled citizens funds to fund pet Pagoda project
Borrow money in capital markets for day to day funding
Spend down city reserves to zero.
Bring digital billboards to town.
Endorse lying police chief

Wow, this is really becoming impressive.

by NineInchNachos on 4/27/2011 @ 9:47am
please ignore that last Claudia post.

by jenyum on 4/27/2011 @ 10:11am
I keep hoping to load one of these stories and see some new wrinkle, some glimmer of accountability on the horizon. Unlikely, it would seem. This is why tort law exists, without it apparently we're only interested in accountability until the public sees something shiny and moves on.

by ixia on 4/27/2011 @ 10:19am
The mayor and the manager will get away with their pensions intact. And Ramsdell and Fulghum as well, while public funds pay for their defense. Police can operate with impunity into the future. I guess the law suit helps the victim's family and that is a good thing. It does come with a huge price for them, such as having to listen the perp on the stand.

by cisserosmiley on 4/27/2011 @ 10:24am
totally ingnore claudia's post - the notion of strickland moving up to any real political position is a joke - in the local hierarchy of female political aptitude she ranks below pat mcarthey julie anderson connie bacon victoria woodard clare petrich...

by fredo on 4/27/2011 @ 10:33am
I wonder if the jury in the case of Linnik vs. the City of Tacoma is going to be impressed with Strickland's inarticulate defense of our police department. And our star witness (drum roll, please) Adhahn Terapon, sociopathic pedophile ("Zina died when she accidentally pulled the ziptie over her mouth and it got caught in her hair"). Stay tuned for the mother of all jury awards to be paid for by, you guessed it, the city taxpayers. Thanks for giving your vote to Bill Baarsma's hand picked replacement, Marilyn Strickland. By placing her in the drivers seat you've bought us all a....ticket to HELL.

by cisserosmiley on 4/27/2011 @ 10:58am
all the patrol officers of the TPD should ask themselves if it would be OK for them to sleep before acting...i think they would all say NO...why they put up with workmates like fulghum that do is a mystery?

by fredo on 4/27/2011 @ 10:59am
Strickland won't discipline the police department because doing so " won't bring Zina back."

But wait a minute...

Just a couple months ago we had rush hundreds of thousands of taxpayers dollars over to CRP to continue work on the Pagada, although doing so won't bring the Chinese back.

OK to exhibit great concern for some wrong that happened long ago by people we didn't know toward people we didn't know and who are all dead and forgotten...but display no concern whatsoever for the little Russian who died of blunt force trauma to her skull while the policeman who was entrusted with her only hope was chugging down a bottle of Nyquil.

Marilyn you make us all so proud.

by NineInchNachos on 4/27/2011 @ 11:00am

i've already forgotten this cartoon. Who cares really? What is INT3GRITY good for anyway when REAL DOLLARS are on the line?


tune in next week: HUMOROUS FOODCARTS!

by NineInchNachos on 4/27/2011 @ 11:09am

by jenyum on 4/27/2011 @ 11:11am
Fredo: unlikely to see a huge verdict in a wrongful death case, even if they win. This is more about holding the city accountable than recovering some huge sum of money.

by jenyum on 4/27/2011 @ 11:13am
"We cannot say how the Council should respond to this situation, but we are not convinced that yesterday’s show of solidarity was adequate." - wow, for Exit133 that was absolutely scorching.

by fredo on 4/27/2011 @ 11:24am
"This is more about holding the city accountable than recovering some huge sum of money." jen

So if the jury returned a judgement for $100 would that hold the city accountable? How about a $1000? How about $1M? How about $23M? Where does the accountability thing kick in?

by fredo on 4/27/2011 @ 11:42am
Jen, you've given me another idea!

Why don't you pen a wonderful little apology note to the Linnik family expressing our city condolences, yadda yadda yadda and we'll get local merchants to contribute to a big gift basket and $1000 spending spree in the city of Tacoma if they just agree to sign a release form? This should satisfy the Linnik's right? After all, they aren't in it for the money.

by jenyum on 4/27/2011 @ 12:25pm
That's really crass, Fredo. This could have happened to anyone's kid that night.

by NineInchNachos on 4/27/2011 @ 12:50pm
no very polite, but since addressed to me.... after asking Jim Merritt how he would Venn Diagram this situation...

Jim Merritt also commented on his link.

Jim wrote:
"@RR the venn diagram would be my standard 3 circles overlapping, 1 Chief of Police 2 City Council 3 Eric Anderson.All are together in this cover up. I would have the venn over Tacoma's trust,transparency& accountability swirling down the drain."

by fredo on 4/27/2011 @ 1:33pm
Sorry Jen, guess I did go a bit overboard. As the parent of some girls about Zinas age this is all driving me a bit nuts. Have a good day.

by NineInchNachos on 4/27/2011 @ 1:50pm
Day 2 reports of paranormal activity coming from Fireman's park.

Hello, ghost.

by NineInchNachos on 4/27/2011 @ 3:03pm
Tacoma cover up makes the radio!

interview with family lawyer. horrifying!

by ixia on 4/27/2011 @ 6:56pm
Gloria China Fortson was fired for not being truthful about helping a victim of domestic violence.Anderson�s truthometer is malfunctioning. Maybe the setting should not be on manual.

by NineInchNachos on 4/27/2011 @ 7:10pm
nice. Check mate !

by NineInchNachos on 4/27/2011 @ 10:45pm
Query: What would Tacoma detective Wyatt James do if his Amber Alert delay was covered up?

(author Mark Lindquist fan fiction)

by cisserosmiley on 4/27/2011 @ 11:46pm
Wyatt James would plant evidence of a convictable crime on the guilty bastards, then go home and smoke a joint knowing the bad guys had been taken down.

by ixia on 4/28/2011 @ 12:24pm
I have never been sorrier than today that Strickland won the election over Merritt. Strickland proudly announced that the city will not even look into lies and cover-ups by the same police that lied and covered up facts during the Brame scandal. Strickland announced this happy news on the 8th year anniversary of the killing of Crystal. Two victimized families have been insulted by our very own mayor on the same day. It lacks tact, empathy, diplomacy, sensitivity, kindness and community spirit and most of all it lacks a moral compass and a sense of justice. Mayor Strickland, I think you are in way over your head!

by fredo on 4/28/2011 @ 12:28pm
Good post ixia

Baarsma backed Ramsdell
Baarsma backed Strickland
Strickland backed Ramsdell

In Tacoma its all about " who's got your back"

by marumaruyopparai on 4/28/2011 @ 12:58pm
You want governmental and bureaucratic transparency, accountability AND int3grity? Wish in one hand and crap in the other man . . . besides, everyone knows that cops eat sunshine and crap rainbows, it's not their fault the plebs can't look after their own kids. Amber Alert schmamber alert, law enforcement needs its beauty sleep.

by NineInchNachos on 4/28/2011 @ 1:02pm
to my very limited understanding Mayor Strickland is a puppet/tool of Brian "Rubbersoul" Ebersole. Mayor Strickland has a career in marketing, I'll wager she hasn't had an original thought in her head since the 1970's. As they say in the Firesign Theater: Her brain is not the boss!

by NineInchNachos on 4/28/2011 @ 1:04pm
I mean come on!

by NineInchNachos on 4/28/2011 @ 1:08pm
Ibsen for Mayor! Smeall for Mayor!

you want to avoid a rotten apple? Go to the tree.

by marumaruyopparai on 4/28/2011 @ 1:37pm
In these times of economic woe and financial austerity the public expects modest campaign signs. Flashy, colorful, gaudy signs are a sure sign of a tax and spend hungry socialist.

But whatever, been there done that, maybe it's time for something new. If it's flash you want in political campaigning create a fund to subsidize a Traveller run for mayor. I bet his campaign signs wouldn't be boring.

by TDI-Reporters-Notebook on 4/28/2011 @ 1:42pm
question: who will be the first city council candidate to place a campaign ad on a digital billboard in tacoma?

by NineInchNachos on 4/28/2011 @ 1:56pm
what's going to happen!?

place your bets!

by fredo on 4/28/2011 @ 2:36pm
Tacoma Police Union contributions to Marilyn Strickland campaign=$8000 (2009)

"don't worry Marilyn, we've got your back.... if you've got our back"

Talk about a great Return On Investment! Lots of great city jobs and pensions salvaged for a mere pennies on the dollar.

by fredo on 4/28/2011 @ 2:49pm
Hello, You've reached the City Ethics Commission Hotline....

Push 1 for complaints about Marilyn Strickland
Push 2 for all other complaints.

Please wait....

current expected hold time....

2 hours.

by NineInchNachos on 4/29/2011 @ 1:03pm

"He is one of the best, and most sane Police Chiefs that this city has ever had."

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by ixia on 4/29/2011 @ 2:08pm
A few days ago I trusted the council to decently deal with this. Now? Meh....

by NineInchNachos on 5/1/2011 @ 11:57am

by NineInchNachos on 5/1/2011 @ 12:03pm

Attached are photos you might find of interest: Zina's headstone indicating she died on July 6, two days after her abduction
(not within 15 minutes the night of the 4th, as the abductor and the city profess).

Thank you both for your work,

by fredo on 5/1/2011 @ 1:53pm
Where is this gravestone?

by Maria on 5/1/2011 @ 6:36pm
Tacoma handled this so poorly. Our city and citizens are better than this. Filling potholes and building pagodas and seeking business investments aren't going to do much good if we don't place a high high value on truthfulness and integrity. Honestly is one of the fundamental qualities of healthy human relationships and communities.

And now, another strange turn of events.

Tacoma police chief reprimanded in Zina Linnik case

In a sudden about-face, Tacoma City Manager Eric Anderson announced Friday that he has reprimanded Police Chief Don Ramsdell for withholding information regarding the Zina Linnik investigation.

by fredo on 5/1/2011 @ 7:51pm
well said Maria.

by NineInchNachos on 5/2/2011 @ 8:11am
"If I had been made aware that what actually happened -- that an officer fell asleep and caused the delay of the Amber Alert, and that that had all been misrepresented in public -- I would have acted, yes," she told me in phone call Saturday morning.

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by fredo on 5/2/2011 @ 10:35am
Everybody who was even remotely attached to the city of Tacoma or the Tacoma Police Department in 2007 is making sure they have an iron tight Zina Linnik alibi. The city council members who were in attendance at the 2009 special executive meeting are also interested in escaping any consequence. Remember that guy in Hogan's Heroes that was alway bellowing out the phrase "I know nothink, I know nothink!"

I don't think we've heard from our Mayor Emeritus Mr. Baarsma. It will be interesting to hear what he remembers.

And a final thought:

Is the public really benefiting from these "Special Executive Meetings" where no record is kept of when the meeting took place, no record is kept of who was in attendance, no one is allowed to write anything down, no one is permitted to make any recording, and where no one is permitted to remember what took place? Please provide a solid example of how the public is benefiting.

by NineInchNachos on 5/2/2011 @ 10:51am
CRS = Can't Remember Stuff !

by fredo on 5/2/2011 @ 11:02am
City Attorney Elizabeth Pauli is preparing Adhahn Terepon for his testimony, let's listen in:

Pauli: now you remember Mr. Terepon, you killed Zina right after you kidnapped her.

Terepon: that's right. I took her home and raped her for a few days then smashed her head in.

Pauli: no no no, remember one of the zip ties you put around her neck got caught in her long hair and strangled her almost immediately.

Terepon: that's right. I took her home and raped her for a few days then smashed her head in.

Pauli: no, listen Terepon. the raping took place after the accidental and immediate killing.

Terepon: that's right, I took her home and raped her for a few days then smashed her head in.

Pauli to the Bailiff: would you ask the judge if we can get a continuance?

by NineInchNachos on 5/3/2011 @ 8:09am
He should forgive many Tacomans for inferring an entirely different message: Public deception is excusable; making the boss look bad is not.

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by NineInchNachos on 5/3/2011 @ 8:41am
“The police department’s decisions on the manner and timing of the Amber Alert were appropriately guided by the rapidly developing investigation,” City Attorney Elizabeth Pauli wrote to Tyler Firkins, the Linnik family’s lawyer.

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by fredo on 5/3/2011 @ 9:01am
but what she meant to say was "...INAPPROPRIATELY guided by the rapidly DETERIORATING investigation"

Pauli is doing her best to defend the indefensible, sort of like when President Clinton announced "I did not have sex with that woman" (he forgot to announce he was talking about Hillary).

by NineInchNachos on 5/3/2011 @ 9:45am
a fun pat on the back administered by yourself...

by NineInchNachos on 5/5/2011 @ 12:55pm

The only former police officer on a citizen panel charged with reviewing the Tacoma Police Department's policies and procedures said Wednesday that she told Police Chief Donald Ramsdell this week that she believes he "lied to the community" about why his department delayed issuing an Amber Alert in the Zina Linnik case.

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by NineInchNachos on 5/5/2011 @ 1:37pm
how do we contact these folks?

by cisserosmiley on 5/5/2011 @ 1:53pm
these folks say this is an individual problem and they have no oversight in individual issues...what are they for? they are new since brame's murder suicided after everyone said he would, now they provide "oversight" i feel great we are being overlooked, i mean overseen

by NineInchNachos on 5/6/2011 @ 10:46am
By now the story of the medicated sleep that prevented an earlier issue of the Amber Alert has reached critical mass. The mistakes were a combination of 1) unintentional human error on the part of a good cop, and 2) a bad policy that has been changed. Such things happen in police work, as they happen everywhere else. But I disagree with anyone who would argue the point that it matters little when the poor girl had already been killed. That is both unprofessional and shortsighted.

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by NineInchNachos on 5/6/2011 @ 10:48am
On Wednesday, Mayor Marilyn Strickland said she is working with the City Attorney’s office to identify an outside investigator. The council will ultimately decide the investigation’s scope, she said.

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by NineInchNachos on 5/6/2011 @ 10:59am
this is interesting...

The link below contains the audio from May 2nd Citizen Panel referred to in the article. Listen for your self as Eric Anderson answers Ms. Stargel's questions for Chief Ramsdell.

by NineInchNachos on 5/6/2011 @ 11:12am
I would just like to stress how AWESOME/OUTRAGEOUS this audio from May 2nd is.

by NineInchNachos on 5/7/2011 @ 10:22am
scroll to the top! see my 72 hr film fest entry you tube (below cartoon)

by NineInchNachos on 5/8/2011 @ 3:21pm
oh yeah...

“The chief’s statements would likely qualify as potential impeachment material that we would disclose, in the unlikely event he was called as a witness,” Lindquist said Thursday. “Then, it would be up to a judge to decide if this would rise to the level of impeachment material.”

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by NineInchNachos on 5/8/2011 @ 4:30pm
also, my guess is that Lauren Walker doesn't feel comfortable straight-up lying to people's faces as Julie Anderson, Mike Lonergan, Bill Baarsma etc.

by cisserosmiley on 5/9/2011 @ 8:07am
hey lauren walker, thanks for being uncomfortable when you's your campaign going? you are the most quiet public official up for re-election in all of Tacomaniaville???

by fredo on 5/9/2011 @ 9:05am
Walker is undoubtedly a very nice person.

But she's carrying around a lot of detrimental baggage like the illegal aliens bill and the Reconciliation pagoda funding. Now on top we've got the Zina Linnick coverup. Better to try someone new like the inexperienced Anders Ibsen.

by cisserosmiley on 5/9/2011 @ 9:19am
ibsen is best in the west...but lauren walker is my districts' rep and i have not heard peep one from her???

by fredo on 5/9/2011 @ 9:40am
As Victoria Woodards is apt to say "It's time to move on"

by NineInchNachos on 5/9/2011 @ 11:29am

by NineInchNachos on 5/9/2011 @ 12:22pm
more funny from the New Takhoman!

"According to Tacoma City Councilman Spiro Manthou there are only six people in a city of close to 200,000 that care that Ramsdell lied. 'We are in a lawsuit, he said, so we can’t comment.'"

I highly recommend that everyone subscribe to his email newsletter to get updates instantly

by NineInchNachos on 5/9/2011 @ 1:31pm
here is some great King 5 video of the Unified Strickland/Council response of no action...

some things to note:

1 - City Spokesman Rob McNairHuff shocked expression leaving the chambers and seeing the King 5 camera dives off screen.

2. How far up on his skull Eric Anderson's eyebrows can travel.

3. Hound dog nut shot

4. Linnik Family Lawyer

by fredo on 5/9/2011 @ 1:42pm
Strickland, Woodards, Walker all smiles. The meeting was obviously a happy occasion. Too bad in a few weeks or days they won't even remember attending the meeting or have any recollection of what was said. The is the New Tacoma Method.

Strickland still arguing that Terepon was the killer. She must be the only person who doesn't realize the issue isn't who the killer was, but rather why the police work was so sloppy and deceitful. She comes across as sort of a clueless boob. Thanks voters.

by NineInchNachos on 5/9/2011 @ 2:32pm
stop the crazy train!

by NineInchNachos on 5/9/2011 @ 2:34pm
The whole "reprimanded" idea is pretty funny considering Eric Anderson went to heroic lengths to say the reprimand was in no way 'for lying' which is interesting if you actually listen to the King Stargel ass chewing. and so I ask what does 'actions speak louder than words' and a reprimand for lying but not because of lying really mean? What runaway train? The Train is rusted to the tracks like some Camp 6 relic.

by fredo on 5/9/2011 @ 2:42pm
good points nachos.

every person on the council has run on a platform of "transparency" and "accountability," yet given the opportunity to demonstrate these laudable qualities they have chosen en masse to do otherwise. all those "reprimands for people who didn't do anything" and "temporary letters in employee files" is a bunch of rubbish. Little Zina's dead and there's nothing temporary about it. The same people who were hopping mad about the chinese expulsions over 100 years ago don't see any irony in the fact that they've betrayed our little Russian lass. Easier to call out other peoples mistakes than to call out our own.

by cisserosmiley on 5/9/2011 @ 2:56pm
you can't really blame these council critters...why between throwing parties for themselves, managing triple dipping, creating slogans that mean nothing, and having to endure political cartoonists assaults these people are abused and we should find some resources for them to start their recovery

by NineInchNachos on 5/9/2011 @ 3:48pm
a competitor's cartoon take..

what do you folks think?

by cisserosmiley on 5/9/2011 @ 4:14pm
i saw the first in the tacoma weekly when i was using the toilet at harbor lights...mostly i just wondered why the harbor lights had the tacoma weekly in the toilet??? but it is refreshing that the tacoma weekly published a politcal cartoon without being paid

by NineInchNachos on 5/9/2011 @ 8:30pm
heard rumors that the cartoonist lets the weekly run his cartoons for free in exchange for running his cartoons.

by NineInchNachos on 5/12/2011 @ 2:37pm
this just keeps getting more awesome...

his letter dated May 10, Det. Terry Krause, the recently seated president of Tacoma Police Union Local 6, wrote that by his assessment, Citizen Review Panel member Trisha King Stargel “is not capable of performing her duties as a member of the panel.”

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by NineInchNachos on 5/12/2011 @ 2:41pm
also interesting...

by fredo on 5/12/2011 @ 4:59pm
Those city labor unions really deliver for the citizens.

by cisserosmiley on 5/13/2011 @ 5:57am
there needs to be a philantropic citizens club in Tacoma that can provide a conduit for peoples' concerns...the Citizens Auxilary Panel...C.A.P. would listen to people who have not been taken care off by police or don't have food, or have a landlord that is failing, then help folks without union politics sucking up money and resources.

by NineInchNachos on 5/13/2011 @ 7:58am
intriguing! Can the CAP award peace prizes as well?

by The Jinxmedic on 5/13/2011 @ 8:56am
The Civil Air Patrol?

Perhaps we can call it something with an acronym that's not already in well-know n usage, perhaps the "Neighborhood Residents Associaion" (NRA), or the "Citizens Involvement Authority" (CIA), or something....

by cisserosmiley on 5/13/2011 @ 11:14am
i have had a Cival Air Patrol baseball cap since 1976...i have never seen anyone else with one, so it is pretty much not informally trademarked enough. tons of peace prizes will be awarded as well as food given out and legal disagreements informally resolved. i will probably open a little restaurant and have it as the clubhouse.

by The Jinxmedic on 5/13/2011 @ 11:28am

by cisserosmiley on 5/13/2011 @ 11:39am
that's great...we can use Cival Air Patrol street cred while the Citizens Auxilary Panel gains steam

by NineInchNachos on 5/13/2011 @ 1:22pm
I always like clubs with special hats .

by NineInchNachos on 5/17/2011 @ 8:36pm
here we go!

by NineInchNachos on 5/31/2011 @ 8:59pm
well this is awkward

by NineInchNachos on 6/1/2011 @ 2:55pm

by NineInchNachos on 6/2/2011 @ 8:04am

by NineInchNachos on 6/20/2011 @ 8:57pm
What in the world!??

Tacoma’s police union is demanding that a planned third-party review of the police department’s handling of the Zina Linnik case four years ago must first be bargained with the union -- or the city will face legal action.

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by ixia on 6/20/2011 @ 11:41pm
Who’s wagging the dog?

by NineInchNachos on 6/21/2011 @ 12:10am
when did unions become a tool for protecting corrupt bosses ?

by fredo on 6/21/2011 @ 9:23am
Police union legal action vs. city of Tacoma
Zinnick family legal action vs. city of Tacoma
Washam employees legal action vs. Pierce County
Lindquist employees legal action vs. Pierce County
Cheney stadium construction manager legal action Vs. City of Tacoma
Cheney stadium construction company vs. City of Tacoma
Clear Channel Vs. City of Tacoma
Ethics commission Vs. City Mayor
Ethics commission Vs. City Manager

The ultimate solution to all our regional problems is not the selection of moral and capable leaders but rather the selection of highly paid and litigiously oriented law firms. God shed his grace on thee.

by NineInchNachos on 6/21/2011 @ 9:38am
good comment from our own Tim Smith

Tim Smith says:
June 21, 2011 at 8:16 am

The most striking thing is the complete exclusion of the Citizen's Review Panel.
The CRP was setup to examine POLICY and a major piece of this is POLICY.
We do not have $50,000 to waste and neither can we afford the complete roll-over to the Union that the City will execute if challenged.

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by NineInchNachos on 6/21/2011 @ 11:52am
yid says:
June 21, 2011 at 11:00 am

"Police Chief Don Ramsdell later apologized to the newspaper for not divulging those details during his department’s previous public statements about why it took 12 hours to issue the Amber Alert. The information about Fulghum also was omitted from the department’s formal after-action report on the Zina case."


1. Chief Ramsdell and Mark Fulgham were untruthful in a public statement.

2. The failure of Mark Fulgham to timely issue the Amber Alert was covered-up by Chief Ramsdell, Mark Fulgham and Eric Anderson, (for his failure to discipline both officers for untruthfulness). The proof is it was not mentioned in the Post-Incident report. (We still do not know who wrote the post incident report and whether, the author was asked to leave out the delayed Amber alert information or was it redacted at a later date and if so by whom?)

Mayor Strickland was right to call for an outside investigation of this incident because, clearly the code of silence that exists at TPD does not allow for fair and impartial fact findings and conclusions.

I believe that there is an impasse between the City and the union because of the importance of the issue. The City should decide early on that, the change of hiring an outside investigator is so minor that it does not involve mandatory subjects of bargaining, and, therefore not engage in bargaining.

I have not read the agreement between the City and TPD but, my hope is that there is a strong management-rights clause, that specifically allows the city to modify rules or implement new ones. It should also be mentioned that the agreement should allow for the contracting out of outside investigations and the City should be free to so.

The City of Tacoma wants an outside investigator to conduct this investigation because of the facts surrounding the failed Amber alert, the untruthfulness by the Chief, Public Spokesperson and City Manager. In doing so they will be able to begin to restore the public's trust in the Tacoma Police Department and it's leadership.

If the Union is successful, we, (the public) may have no other choice but to call for a Department of Justice Investigation.

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by NineInchNachos on 7/2/2011 @ 9:03pm
this just keeps getting stranger... and I don't mean "The Stranger"

Lewis Kamb writes: "When Mayor Marilyn Strickland announced in May her choice of a Texas consultant to do an outside review of Tacoma police's Zina Linnik investigation, she made it clear his lack of local ties was an asset.
"For me, the fact that he is out of Texas and isn't local, I think is a plus because he comes to this with complete objectivity," Strickland publicly told fellow council members on May 17.
Three days later, the mayor learned from a local cop that former Arlington (Texas) Police Sgt. Mark Simpson had helped train several Tacoma officers, including one at the center of controversy in the Zina case.
For the next month, the mayor did not publicly mention Simpson's local training ties before the city hired him on June 24 to conduct "an objective and unbiased review" meant in part to improve public trust."

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by gritz thekat on 7/4/2011 @ 5:21pm
also, read more here about the tacoma need to be totally "bootypop" (that means the mayor at al likes cool shift more than important shift)

by NineInchNachos on 7/12/2011 @ 11:12pm
You're next Joe Lonergan ! OUT WITH BOOBS !

by NineInchNachos on 7/21/2011 @ 10:49am

"A King County judge has dismissed a wrongful-death lawsuit brought against the city of Tacoma, Pierce County and the state of Washington by the family of Zina Linnik, the Hilltop girl who was kidnapped and murdered by a sex offender four years ago."

by NineInchNachos on 8/3/2011 @ 8:51am
intellectual view on lying:

"Why Leaders Lie: The Truth About Lying in International Politics"


by NineInchNachos on 8/4/2011 @ 8:18am

sounds like fun eh? (thanks ANONYMOUS)

by fredo on 8/4/2011 @ 8:37am
nachos, you raised many good questions about the ability of Ramsdell and Fulghum to continue serving in their police capacity.

Have you brought these concerns up to the candidates on the Disctrict 1 roundtable? Perhaps there are candidates who share your concerns and who might be willing to take corrective action if elected. Just a thought.

by NineInchNachos on 8/4/2011 @ 9:15am
Some of the candidates might be far too busy to answer. ?

by fredo on 8/4/2011 @ 10:34am
"Some of the candidates might be far too busy to answer. ?"

What is your point? We should only ask questions of the candidates if we perceive that they have time to answer?

I already asked Anders on another thread if he would hold Ramsdell and Fulghum accountable. He hasn't responded. Don't know if he's too busy to respond or if he is waiting for someone from the Police Union to provide him with a response.

by NineInchNachos on 8/10/2011 @ 8:36am
love it...

Jake Fey:

"The ethical issues in the Human Rights and Human Services, Finance and especially the Police Departments are very unsettling. While the Councilmember acknowledges that mistakes in judgment can and do happen from time to time, the lack of good judgment by employees involved makes him wonder if the City Manager is setting the proper tone. The Councilmember finds it incomprehensible that he would consider the withholding of extremely critical facts by the Police Chief in the Zina Linnick (sic) matter `not a lie.' If the City Manager truly believes that then this Councilmember believes the City Manager has very serious issues to address. Councilmember fails to understand the logic in the City Manager's failure to take disciplinary action for the withholding of information."

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by fredo on 8/10/2011 @ 8:52am
What is Anders going to do about this lying at the Police Department?

by NineInchNachos on 9/13/2011 @ 12:02pm
MEANWHILE, today is the big day... we'll see if all those trips to Hawaii paid off.

by NineInchNachos on 9/14/2011 @ 8:27am
and now your moment of zen: 
"Fulghum, who remains the department spokesman, declined to comment about the investigation Tuesday."
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by tacoma1 on 9/14/2011 @ 9:00am

by fredo on 9/14/2011 @ 9:07am

Finally, a tacoma1 posting I can agree with!

by NineInchNachos on 9/14/2011 @ 9:16am
the rich text editor is going to need some bugs worked out .  hehe

by NineInchNachos on 9/19/2011 @ 2:07pm
Hey you can read the 'outsider' review report thing here !

by NineInchNachos on 10/20/2011 @ 11:03pm
hey look what YOU get to pay for!  
Liar Chief Raise!

by JesseHillFan on 10/20/2011 @ 11:10pm
Remember the 1% aren't really just alone.They have the 15% (highly paid enforcers,unionized,lawmakers,politicians) that support the 1% and in return get monstrous wages benefits,power.It's not really the 99% of the rest of us.It's really something like 85% (or maybe less) that are the rest of us.

by The Jinxmedic on 10/21/2011 @ 6:19am
The key part question here is what are the "unionized subordinates" are making?

by fredo on 10/21/2011 @ 7:40am

Why don't the Occupy Tacoma protesters move their protest over to city hall? It's obvious from the story in the News Tribune that the city employees are the rich people locally who need to be held accountable.

by fredo on 10/21/2011 @ 7:44am
Ramsdell's pay raise is a big issue right before the election.

Where is Anders Ibsen's POV?

ISSUE: Should the lying police chief of Tacoma Washington be getting a big raise during a recession just to maintain his superior pay level over his subordinates? 

Anders, what do you say? YES or NO.

And no narrative required.

by Crenshaw Sepulveda on 10/21/2011 @ 8:14am
Fredo. I'm sure the Occupy Tacoma protesters will take your suggestion very serious, I'm certain they take every thing  you say very seriously.  

by The Jinxmedic on 10/21/2011 @ 8:16am
"Unionized subordinates" are the 1%.

by NineInchNachos on 10/21/2011 @ 8:25am
look i'd have no  problem if the dude was worth it... like he was doing a stellar job.  But lets get real; his INT3GRITY is DOA!    
Should give his raise to Trisha King Stargel

by NineInchNachos on 11/10/2011 @ 10:15am
hey, I know a police chief you could lay off

by NineInchNachos on 11/21/2011 @ 9:39am
TNT: "stop demonizing the police when they smash your face and pepper spray you, you guys"

by NineInchNachos on 3/8/2013 @ 9:46am

ONLY 1 more to replace!

by Cloud on 4/24/2013 @ 1:58am
I would like to cook dinner for whoever's voice is behind the Youtube above - cheering on Trisha King Stargel and calling folks liars. I have seen this before, but tonight I needed it again  - after reading the recent article on how great our current Tacoma Police chief is.[IT'S THE SAME CHIEF.] This video is sanity amid the insanity. Does the Trib and do the citizens really forget that fast? Are they not paying attention? [Are they real?]Is there something in the water or the antidepressants people are willingly popping in their mouths to change their brain chemistry? 
Thank you for caring enough to take the time to be creative and point to the truth. 

by NineInchNachos on 4/24/2013 @ 7:22am
good times!

by Cloud on 4/24/2013 @ 3:11pm
I left a comment there earlier today too.