Joe and Marty's Eco-Road-Trip

How to Draw a Tacoma Film Festival Poster Without Really Trying
posted Jun 22, 2010
urban forestry, electric vehicles, golf cart, marty campbell, joe lonergan, tacoma city council
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The premise of this cartoon came from a request by my friend and colleague Mr. Tim Smith after bearing witness to Joe Lonergan's request for information on the differences between "Street Trees's and Right of Way Trees."   

My friend Mr. Smith speculates on creative interpretation of STREET TREES. In his words:  "I think some fine art could be made of Tacoma's Street Trees Do they wear fishnet nylons and heavy make-up and advertise on craigslist? Are Hilltop black walnut trees getting a bad rap? Do North End trees always act uppity?"

Soon after, branching from the same Tacoma City Council study session, I get another tip from a fan at The [Tacoma] News Tribune about Council-Person Marty Campbell's intriguing enthusiasm for golf-cart technology (a tie-in with EV Charging stations goes here). Yet, the cartooning challenge was not enough still!  How about packaging up this cartoon as a last-minute entry into the Tacoma Film Festival's poster contest? Now you're cooking with rocket sauce!  

by NineInchNachos on 6/22/2010 @ 2:43am
my only regret was forgetting to work in a Marty Campbell 'Imagine time spent mentoring a child' wise crack.

by captiveyak on 6/22/2010 @ 6:41am
The lack of street trees is one signal that we're spending too much time mentoring trees.

by Mofo from the Hood on 6/22/2010 @ 7:41am
Concrete, Steel, Glass...

Name three characteristics of a city.

"Only YOU Can Prevent Forestation Of Tacoma"

The preceeding message was sponsored by the Mofo News Network--- MNN "Separating Truth from Trivia"

by The Jinxmedic on 6/22/2010 @ 7:47am
Ahhhhh... ...a multi-panel!

But I do rather like the inverted binoculars.

by NineInchNachos on 6/22/2010 @ 10:11am
need to change to to a too... but other than that the 'FLIM' was intentional...was going to hide a 'flam' but forgot. OH WELL, WE FIX TONIGHT! also need to format a 11x17 version for official FILM FESTIVAL submission entry qualifications!

Thank you for your comments comrades!

by captiveyak on 6/22/2010 @ 11:33am
my name is not inacomaintacoma, and i support this tacomic. your lonergan portrayal is strikingly good.

by NineInchNachos on 6/22/2010 @ 1:37pm
ha! Thanks Captiveyak. I'm also inspired to draw Mark Lindquist in greater detail. Plenty of time before November.

by Crenshaw Sepulveda on 6/22/2010 @ 2:42pm
I thought there would be a crow in this. I'm confused.

by fredo on 6/22/2010 @ 3:04pm
RR it's all too confusing for me but the imagery was certainly funny. Could you provide a link to more information about this street tree vs. right of way tree "controversy"? The hot link in your narrative didn't really get me anywhere.

by NineInchNachos on 6/22/2010 @ 3:09pm
i'll see if I can't find the archived city council study session...

maybe when I go in to fix the typos I can add some crows. :)

by The Jinxmedic on 6/22/2010 @ 3:26pm
RR, what I think that Crenshaw is saying that Ocryx & Joe now OWN the Tacoma multi-panel topical comic. Heh.

However, I love your second panel on this one- the brow sweat, the "Mars Atttacks" eyes, and the overbite on Mr. Lonergan are fantastic.

Nice work, sir.

by NineInchNachos on 6/22/2010 @ 3:38pm
thanks Jinx, was party inspired by this character design...

by The Jinxmedic on 6/23/2010 @ 5:34am
I was thinking more like this:

by Jesse on 6/23/2010 @ 5:10pm
I haven't read the tree law yet but I do know that you can cover up a lot of ugliness with trees. In fact, there is a neighborhood in my home town of Vancouver Wa. called the Lincoln neighborhood that has tiny little old crappy houses that are actually quite coveted compared to the same age, style, size, and condition houses in the Rosemere or Hough neighborhoods less than a mile away. My theory is that the tree lines streets in Lincoln are what make the neighborhood LOOK better and sort of tricks buyers into paying more for those houses.

by fredo on 6/23/2010 @ 6:29pm
Jesse I agree that neighborhoods with trees look better than treeless neighborhoods. Perhaps the homes are more valuable too, as you mention.

The issue I have with neighborhood trees is that while there is widespread interest in the enjoyment of trees there is little interest in repairing tree damaged sidewalks, curbing, and general maintenance and cleanup. The trees planted in the right of way either by well-meaning homeowners or as a result of some sort of street improvement district are the chief culprits.

by NineInchNachos on 6/23/2010 @ 10:28pm
Union over by UPS does a good job I think.

by fredo on 6/25/2010 @ 7:04am
Union Ave north of North 9th St. is probably Tacoma's finest looking street. Has anyone seen a finer street?

by captiveyak on 6/25/2010 @ 7:13am
there are lovely trees along both I St. and Yakima between 2nd and N. Anderson. Not quite as grand as Union...

Also, Mason St. has a nice thing going on between N. 30th and N. 10th or so.

by fredo on 6/25/2010 @ 7:44am
Captive, when I have guests from out of town I always show them that neighborhood around Yakima St. One house in that neighborhood has a merry-go-round in the backyard. The trees on Mason aren't so mature but in another 20 years or so it will be stunning.

Here are 3 little pocket neighborhoods a lot of you probably have never seen but are worth a look. They are all overlooking the water in north Tacoma. The first is called East Street (I believe). Turn north on the first street East of the old North 24th street bridge. The second is at the end of North Proctor. The large house there is Jack Connellys. The third neighborhood is the Seminary area right behind the old Baptist Seminary on North Stevens. All are filled with eye-popping homes and landscaping.

by Jesse on 6/25/2010 @ 8:02am
Fredo, The sidewalk damage caused by trees is because the wrong type of tree is typically planted there. You can get trees that seek water by growing their roots downward instead of across the surface and therefore not causing sidewalk damage.

by fredo on 6/25/2010 @ 8:10am
Jesse, we should start telling people what varieties of trees those are. I haven't heard of a tree whose roots will not damage a sidewalk.

Here's an example. The ornamental pear trees that were planted along No. 26th street twenty years ago were supposed to be appropriate for the placement next to sidewalks. Now there are thousands of dollars worth of cracked sidewalks which can't be replaced until the trees are removed. Footnote: the variety planted had been recommended by the city arborist. Ironically the "visionaries" who plant these trees are never around any longer when the problems begin cropping up.

by NineInchNachos on 7/10/2010 @ 12:14am
spotted on crenshaw's flickr stream:

mark hates you

by Erik on 7/10/2010 @ 9:37pm
Union Ave north of North 9th St. is probably Tacoma's finest looking street. Has anyone seen a finer street?

Take a look at N. Yakima.

by Jesse on 7/11/2010 @ 9:28am
Notice Yakima downtown is essentially the same street as Tacoma Avenue but it looks about ten times nicer because of the trees?

by fredo on 7/11/2010 @ 10:46am
"it looks about ten times nicer because of the trees" Jesse

How do the sidewalks along the treelined portions of Yakima look compared to the sidewalks along the downtown portions of Yakima?

by L.S.Erhardt on 7/12/2010 @ 1:28pm
There really ought to be more interest in T-Town's trees. Does anyone know much info about the populations of what species in town?

And I had a brilliant idea earlier. Why not plant thousands of Ginko biloba in town? They do well in our climate, are gymnosperms, are drought and pollution resistant, they look nice, grow tall and live hundreds of years.
There are a great many ginko-lined streets in Tokyo and they are stunning when the leaves turn yellow in the autumn.

Both these pictures are the Ginkos along Icho-namiki in Meiji-jingu Gaien in Tokyo.

by fredo on 7/12/2010 @ 1:44pm
Why not plant thousands of Ginko biloba in town? thorax

do you mean on public property, private property, or on city right-of-ways?

by L.S.Erhardt on 7/12/2010 @ 1:46pm
All of the above?

I was thinking mostly of the right-of way, but if people want to plant them, go ahead. I rather like Ginkos. But I'm sure you guessed that.

by fredo on 7/12/2010 @ 2:00pm
I think we should let property owners decide if they want ginkos or some other tree or no trees at all.

If the city wants trees on public property I'm OK with that.

The real issue becomes who will decide if rights-of-way will have trees and, if the answer is affirmative, what type of trees and who will provide maintenance on the trees and infrastructure which become damaged by the trees. This issue has been discussed extensively. People seem to want all the neat things that come with an arborial city but don't want any ownership of the problems that trees create. If the city puts ome Ginko trees in front of your apartment building and in ten years they cause $20K worth of sidewalk damage how much extra rent would you be willing to pay to restore the walk?

by Jesse on 7/12/2010 @ 9:27pm
Yakima Ave looked good today when I drove down there. From the street I couldn't see any damage to the sidewalk.

An argument against trees because of sidewalk damage is weak as you CAN get trees that seek water by extending thier roots downward.

The argument about maintenance is more realistic. I'd argue that Tacoma should divide itself into a series of "planned communities" by logical roads or areas. I am thinking of Fisher's Landing in Vancouver, Wa. They do a great job of tree lining streets and developing an urban canopy. It's just beautiful and I see a LOT of towns in western Washington.

Vancouver's tree plan:

by Jesse on 7/12/2010 @ 9:32pm
Also, if Tacoma only made it a point to plant columnar trees and ground cover plants in planter strips that currently contain asphalt, we'd be off to a great start. Check out all the asphalt in planter strips on roads like South Tacoma Way, Pacific Ave, and many of Tacoma's major roads.

PS- They's also hide the power line sky-trash too.

by wildcelticrose on 7/12/2010 @ 10:00pm
I planted three Kwanzan Flowering Cherry trees in the very wide strip between the sidewalk and street and a pink flowering dogwood in my front yard.

I want the shade, I want the flowers and I want to help beautify the neighborhood (my block on Hilltop lost the old Hawthorne trees some time ago so we're all trying to plant new trees to beautify the neighborhood.

If there comes a time where they are an issue with the sidewalk, I'll fix the sidewalk.

I planted three Kwanzan Flowering Cherry trees in the very wide strip between the sidewalk and street and a pink flowering dogwood in my front yard.

I want the shade, I want the flowers and I want to help beautify the neighborhood (my block on Hilltop lost the old Hawthorne trees some time ago so we're all trying to plant new trees to beautify the neighborhood.

If there comes a time where they are an issue with the sidewalk, I'll fix the sidewalk.

Oh, and I've also done something about that bare, weedy slope

by fredo on 7/13/2010 @ 6:10am
"If there comes a time where they are an issue with the sidewalk, I'll fix the sidewalk." wildcelticrose

Does this mean that if the trees damage the sidewalk in twenty to sixty years you will still be here to attend to their care? Or that you've established an escrow account in the event that you are not here?

What if the city plants the trees in your right of way and they damage the sidewalk? Will you be just as willing to pay for the damages? If the homeowner didn't want any trees in the right of way and the city placed them anyway does the homeowner become responsible for any ensuing damage? If there's a large tree in a parking strip that's causing thousands in damages how do we find out who planted it so that we can recover the repair costs? As they say, the devil is in the details.