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Anders Ibsen for Tacoma City Council Position 1

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posted Jul 12, 2011
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Folks round here like to make a big deal about candidates who answer the trough questions. Well comrade, you can't get much tougher than this astonishing display of candor from then candidate Anders Ibsen answering vicious real-life questions from Feedtacoma.com readers a less skilled statesman would have tripped off like some P.T.S.D. inducing I.E.D. 

~ REMEMBERING ~  
Q = FeedReaders
A = Anders Ibsen himself

Q, 1: Cesar Chavez was an opponent of illegal immigration. What's Anders' position? 

A, 1: My view on this federal matter is that we need immigration reform that is tough, fair and practical. We need to secure our borders, crack down on illegal employers, and require that those who came here without our permission register, obey our laws, work hard, and pay taxes, so we turn illegal immigrants into productive, tax-paying citizens. 

Q, 2: What do you think about Jake Fey's super power of collecting government retirement checks while also collecting government paychecks? 

A, 2: I oppose the "retire rehire" loophole, as it wastes money that we could be investing in services, and unfairly prevents younger workers from entering the workforce. I am glad that the State 
Senate unanimously passed a bill that would repeal this loophole last Monday, and I look forward to the State House's passage. You can keep track of the bill's progress via this link

Q, 3: Would you vote yes or no to decriminalize weed? (all cannabis products including recreational use as described in recent initiative attempts) 

A, 3: As someone who has worked extensively with local law enforcement, I know the toll that drug use can take on a community and a family. When it comes to law enforcement of any kind, we need policy that is evidenced-based, community-supported and fiscally responsible. While I do not have an "anything goes" laissez-faire attitude towards drug policy, I do believe that our laws have to reflect modern science, which has now cast serious doubt on earlier characterizations of marijuana as a physically addictive "gateway drug." Compared to legal drugs like tobacco and alcohol - which cause thousands of deaths and cost millions of dollars in healthcare costs each year - I do not believe that marijuana use justifies the millions of dollars that are spent on the arrest, prosecution and incarceration of non-violent users for nothing but possession. The black market that results from this approach also has the unintended consequence of attracting violent, foreign drug cartels, which endanger American lives. If your hypothetical initiative were written intelligently, I would probably vote for it. 

Q, 4: why are YOU not on the feed? (seeing a "marty" helps me view leaders as regular people even though i suspect "marty" is jake fey) 

A, 4: I just signed up! 

Q, 5: i am excited about new people running for office, which council folks do you currently know or could be a mentor to you when your service starts? 

A, 5: I know almost all of the current councilmembers very well, and already have great working relationships with some of them. For example, I am currently working with Councilmember David Boe and other stakeholders to help get a flashing crosswalk beacon for N 28th Street and Proctor to protect the Mason Middle School students who cross the street. I am a strong conservationist, and have worked extensively with Cascade Land Conservancy before, so I imagine it will be very fun to work more closely with Councilmember Ryan Mello, too. 

Q, 6: Is Anders a graduate of THE Evergreen State College? 

A, 6: Yes, I am a proud Geoduck! I was always a self-directed student, and I really thrived in the atmosphere of innovation and self-discipline that Evergreen provided. It was very similar to my experience at the Tacoma School of the Arts, which is a tremendous asset to our city. 

Q, 7: How would you make Tacoma's WSHM more attractive to landing one of the decommissioned Space Shuttles ? 

A, 7: Maybe an aircraft carrier? 

Q, 8: Do you support the Clear Channel billboard settlement? 

A, 8: I do not. The settlement to Clear Channel was pure capitulation. This is a "settlement" that will blight our neighborhoods, distract motorists and increase the risk for accidents, and set horrible precedent for future policy-making. And the worst thing is, this was a case we could have won. Many local jurisdictions have similar laws to our 1997 regulation of large billboards, and to my knowledge none have been overturned as unconstitutionally impeding billboard companies' free speech rights. As an elected Councilmember, I will not roll over every time an out-of-state corporation tells me that "constitutions matter." Nor will I let the city manager bully me into making last-minute, uninformed decisions. 

Q, 9: last year the city paid $75,000 for "lobbying consultants", Tacoma public utilities added $112,000 for the same, the port paid $55,000, and tacoma metro parks $40,000. would you charge more or less to "consult" for each of these public entities? 

A, 9: The primary responsibility of a government is to offer quality public services to its people, and to prioritize those services over other expenditures. While it is important for local governments to get fair representation in Olympia (those lobbyists advocate for local projects like preserving funding for the WSHM, for example), lobbying and consulting expenses should be some of the first costs we consider reducing when balancing a budget in tough economic times. The deeper underlying problem is that there isn't that much transparency in regards to where our money goes with consultants and contractors. We need sunshine laws that specify where our money is going, and what results are being achieved by these private actors when they get city money. And it should 
be painless and hassle-free for average citizens to access this information. 

Q, 10: Do you think elected leaders should be acquainted with the city ethics code and follow it explicitly? 

A, 10: Yes, definitely. When in doubt, ask a lawyer before you do anything rash. 

Q: Was this the correct decision by the council and do you think its a good idea to raid various city budgets to pay for pet projects?

A: It's obvious that slip ramps, ADA improvements, and other infrastructure are vital city services. As a general principle, I certainly share your concerns about transferring funding from designated services to a discretionary project. 
On the other hand, I think Chinese Reconciliation Park is more than just a pet project. It's been in the works for almost 30 years, and is a great way to not only affirm our values as a city, but to also bolster our local tourism industry, and also build pragmatic business relationships with our Asian trading partners. 
Not to mention that to the North End homeowners around the Old Town/Stadium neighborhoods, improving the waterfront is a serious quality of life issue. It's one the North End Neighborhood Council 
has taken up repeatedly with Sperry Dock, and is doing so again with their proposed parking lot expansion. Besides improving the waterfront experience, creating a new park will improve the area's 
land value, increasing homeowners' property value and helping the city collect more in property taxes in the future. A nice long-term investment. 
For those reasons, I think the park is a very worthy project. If the project came at the expense of slip ramps or other capital projects, I'd be more wary. But considering that the city still left 
$150,000 for slip ramps - and will fund the project more as is needed - I don't think this is an "either-or" situation. 
If any of you have follow-up questions, I'm always happy to answer them! You can also reach me at either (253) 370-0201 or electibsen@gmail.com. 

Best wishes, 
Anders 
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by NineInchNachos on 7/12/2011 @ 3:02am
BREAKING: City Manager evaluation! pages 186 - 204 cms.cityoftacoma.org/cityclerk/Files/Cit...

by NineInchNachos on 7/12/2011 @ 3:02am
REMINDER: special Citizen's Auxiliary City Council ribbon cutting ceremony at the Eric Anderson Memorial Car Park this WED at NOON
www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=160217894...

by KevinFreitas on 7/12/2011 @ 7:35am
Holy crap, awesome Tacomic! Guess Anders has a new campaign poster. Well done, good sir! See you tonight at the City Council meeting I hope?

by fredo on 7/12/2011 @ 7:40am
"...require that those who came here without our permission register, obey our laws, work hard, and pay taxes, so we turn illegal immigrants into productive, tax-paying citizens." Ibsen

Anders would fit in perfectly with the Woodards, Strickland, Mello, Walker cabal spouting this sort of "progressive" nonsense.

We shouldn't be rewarding illegal aliens by asking them to become "productive, tax-paying citizens" but rather rounding them up and having them live at the ICE center until their deportations can be arranged.



by NineInchNachos on 7/12/2011 @ 7:56am
It's the chainsaw of justice. Is it ironic that NWDC is made profitable by exploiting illegal immigrant labor?

by NineInchNachos on 7/12/2011 @ 7:59am
Meanwhile: my brother has invented the term "Tacomikaze" to describe my late night cartooning struggle. #winningthefuture

by NineInchNachos on 7/12/2011 @ 8:15am
See you at the Council Meeting Kevin. I hear a documentary film crew will be there.

by fredo on 7/12/2011 @ 9:01am
" Is it ironic that NWDC is made profitable by exploiting illegal immigrant labor?" nachos

" Isn't it ironic that Anders would expect people, who have violated immigration laws to get here, to suddenly want to "obey our laws?"

Using Anders logic, we should just release everyone from jail or prison as long as they promise to obey our laws.

by NineInchNachos on 7/12/2011 @ 9:09am
isn't that called parole ?

by fredo on 7/12/2011 @ 9:19am
No it isn't. Parole is a felon release that comes at the conclusion of a prison sentence.

by NineInchNachos on 7/12/2011 @ 9:21am
Ah I was assuming the 'everyone from jail or prison' were there because of a trial and or conviction.... You must be referring to enemy combatant status

by fredo on 7/12/2011 @ 9:37am
Well, let's just say that Anders favors providing rewards to law breakers. He said so!

by The Jinxmedic on 7/12/2011 @ 10:11am
I believe that NiN meant Parole in its classic sense, not as in basterdized current useage.

by NineInchNachos on 7/12/2011 @ 10:15am
We can both agree that paying taxes is a reward. Progressive!

by jenyum on 7/12/2011 @ 10:16am
Thanks for the CM performance evaluation link, RR. Some snippets:

From various "Needs Improvement" sections


There is major concern about economic development leadership by the City Manager and at the Senior Management level. Actions seem more reactive than proactive, and there is no clear description of how the City's ED Department interacts with the Tacoma Pierce County Economic Development Board, the Chamber of Commerce and each of their respective roles.


There is the impression that staffing is not balanced to best meet the needs of the City. Some departments are completely over-worked and understaffed, while others have too many employees without enough work to keep them busy. This erodes the concept of a high performing government.


The Shoreline Master Planning process has been disappointing for some council members. City staff has unnecessarily agitated and frustrated various stakeholders by proffering plans and ideas later deemed inconsistent or with incorrect information. While some of this has been corrected, it appears the CM either was unaware or unwilling to act more promptly to correct these issues.


Employee complaints about management are minimal; those who do complain, however, sometimes express apprehension. CM must create an internal culture that allows and encourages employees to freely share their opinions and ideas


The CM is using a growing reliance on deferred expenditures that may present several difficulties for budgets in the future. There is an appreciation for solid budget discipline. Council priorities should be the CM's top priorities....Though a report was completed on City facility needs, funding of deferred maintenance (which is now overdue) is a challenge.


Some Council members rate the relationship between the CM and Council as good, but in decline. Communication to Council is perceived as a serious weakness with significant room for improvement and opportunity to repair relationships.


The CM must do a better job of providing the Council with timely, complete and accurate information. Some Council members feel that choices presented to council for policy making decisions are used to frame and strengthen pre-determined decisions, with little room for council deliberation and research.


The City Council requested an urban design plan at the 2010 council retreat to assist with economic development and transportation planning. As of July 2011, the process has yet to be initiated.


Long-term economic development strategic planning is weak and execution is a hodgepodge of efforts. It often feels as though the city lacks innovation and is stuck in a decades old model built on subsidies and free parking. We must do more to differentiate ourselves and tell our story to compete on a national and international level, not with just local and regional municipalities


Several Council Members believe the Community Relations Department is reactive rather than proactive and needs a communication plan. Such a plan was requested by Council during the CM's previous evaluation. To date, nothing has been delivered.


Under "Goals"

Create a Customer Service Culture of "Yes"

a. Complete technology for accepting credit cards on online by the end of second quarter 2012 (except Library); and

b. Redo website entirely to improve access to information, ease of use and customer friendliness by 6/30/2012*.


Anderson's contract renewal resolution has been given a "Do pass" recommendation by the Council's CM performance review committee.

by jenyum on 7/12/2011 @ 10:19am
I should add that the "commendations" sections under each subject heading were nearly as long. Don't interpret these snippets as the whole picture.

by NineInchNachos on 7/12/2011 @ 10:35am
I'm done with Eric Anderson. He likes parking lots. Whatever. ..

What about this social snub? We did not get a wedding invitation. new.kevinfreitas.net/blog/anna-joes-wedd... What gives?

by cisserosmiley on 7/12/2011 @ 11:12am
"Long-term economic development strategic planning is weak and execution is a hodgepodge of efforts."
so true, i can't believe i agree with the evaluation...the questions is how come whenever someone mentions this there are sooooo many to defend how well tacoma is doing???
anders ibsen, do you think tacoma is "doing well" from an economic development standpoint?

by Erik on 7/12/2011 @ 11:14am
An amazing Tacomic. Nice work RR!

Re: the threat of digital billboards in Tacoma, Anders stated:

Q XI: What is your position in relation to the settlement proposal that the Tacoma City Council is considering regarding electronic billboards? Do you support it? If you were elected to the Tacoma City Council, would you authorize the City of Tacoma to expend financial resources to defend the Tacoma’s current 1997 billboard law?
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Answer: As an executive board member of the North End Neighborhood Council, I voted with my colleagues last March to oppose the current settlement decision. I am disappointed that the city did not choose to defend a clearly constitutional law against Clear Channel’s baseless accusations. If elected, I would support a full legal defense of our 1997 billboard law.


www.tacomasun.com/2011/04/26/candidate-a...

by Erik on 7/12/2011 @ 11:29am
Reference:


by marumaruyopparai on 7/12/2011 @ 11:42am
Is there any room for any of these immigrants in the People's Republic of Fredo City? Certainly with it's austere but fair minimum wage laws it has managed to avoid the economic woes suffered by the shamelessly self indulgent United States. Perhaps you can find it in your heart to offer amnesty to these lost souls Fredo, all they want is opportunity and a fresh start, you can take advantage of their desperation by brainwashing them with all manner of conservative mumbo jumbo. They won't mind your minimum wage laws because most of them came here to do grunt work anyway.

by NineInchNachos on 7/12/2011 @ 11:53am
your last best chance to fight evil in another dimension !

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by NineInchNachos on 7/12/2011 @ 12:00pm
don't let this happen to you!
www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/...

by NineInchNachos on 7/12/2011 @ 12:07pm
LIBERATE THE TAX HAVEN FREDO CITY!

by NineInchNachos on 7/12/2011 @ 12:09pm
Lady of the Lake passes on the The Chainsaw of Justice to a new candidate! (see previous CVV toon comics.feedtacoma.com/tacomic/tacomic-v-... )

by Rick Jones on 7/12/2011 @ 12:18pm
I guarantee if Fredo was caught in a situation which required him to break the law to feed his family he would do it rather than watch them starve. In fact following Fredo's posts I would not be surprised (in fact I would expect) that he has a "Doomsday" stash of food, guns and ammunition to keep anarchy at bay. Lawbreakers are lawbreakers, that's correct. But there is a relative aspect to law-breaking. Otherwise there would not be murder one, two and three. Frequently these illegal immmigrants are people who accurately judge they don't have time to wait for the onerous bureaucratic process to grant them legal access. They have to go NOW. So Fredo, are you such a Boy Scout that you would wait until the System granted you access or would you jump the fence for you and yours own betterment? Are you system oriented or a survivalist? Are you really so much better than those you rave against? Have you walked in their shoes? The last was rhetorical. You have not. Rather than consider the suffering of others you seem, based on your replies and posts, to simply want to grasp from others what you were given by the accident of birth.
This morning a young man picked a Calla Lily from our garden and gave it to his toddler daughter. She was so happy to have this flower. It was not his flower to give. He actually stole it from our garden. I watched it happen and could have complained to him, but didn't. We have so many lilies and it made her so happy. What he did was technically wrong, it was illegal, but I chose to draw a line and let it go. How tight is your 'line?' Are illegal immigrants felons?
Judging by your posts I expect you to respond with the legal reasoning that defends your position. And, judging by your posts, you are most often correct. But being right doesn't always make you right. There's the Law and there's your Soul. If you can't separate the two.......

by NineInchNachos on 7/12/2011 @ 12:19pm
Re: billboards

Daniel Rahe glitter-folk philosopher says it best:

Municipal codes are written to increase the benefits, beautification, preservation, edification and protection of municipal values and culture. These proposed revisions might be the first time a code is re-written to decrease those actions. And this might be the first time a code is re-written for the benefit of one out-of-town, out-of-state business, to the arguable detriment of the inhabitants of the City.

by cisserosmiley on 7/12/2011 @ 12:38pm
i humbly wish the council would justify how mr anderson is still employed? at an executive level with hundreds of thousands of dollars for salary and benefits and retirement WE have no recourse for mr. anderson to be mentored or guided into better performance-when there is failure or needed improvement it must come from change because mr anderson has NO supervisor who can help him do his job better...it is just OVER, there is NO way for him to learn or be educated into being a competent cm in tacoma, only the fact that he is or is not...the review makes it pretty clear he is not. asking mr anderson to "improve" is like asking him to be a different person. why not hire a different person? jake fey answer me!

by NineInchNachos on 7/12/2011 @ 12:50pm
seconded! I want my neighborhood library back.

by NineInchNachos on 7/12/2011 @ 12:54pm
Anders Ibsen's PIERCE COUNTY VOTER GUIDE INFO:



Education:

BA in Political Science and Sociology,
The Evergreen State College; Tacoma
School of the Arts

Occupation:
Deputy Director, The Landmark Law Group PLLC

Place of Birth:
Tacoma, WA

Professional Qualifications:
Conservation District Supervisor, 2008-2011; former Legislative
Assistant for WA House of Representatives; organized neighborhood block watch groups to fight crime.

Personal Information:
Born and raised in the North End of Tacoma and happily married
to my best friend.

Community Involvement:
North End Neighborhood Council, where I secured grant
money for a crosswalk beacon near Mason Middle School to
protect pedestrians; helped start the new community garden
on North 45th and Orchard; SOTA Partners board member;
helped fund the YWCA womens shelter. Past involvement
includes Green Partnership Fund, Tacoma Opera, Domestic
Violence Reduction Taskforce, and Tacoma Food Cooperative.

Public Offices Held:
Pierce County Conservation District, Elected Supervisor, 2008-
2011; North End Neighborhood Council, 2009 to present

Personal Views:
As your Councilmember, I will be a leader who listens and an
energetic advocate for your issues. We need representatives
who are more accountable to constituents and I will make your
concerns my top priority. I will work tirelessly to improve our
quality of life: that means fewer potholes, more police presence
in our neighborhoods, and clean and vibrant communities.
I sincerely appreciate your consideration and your vote.

Sponsored by:
Morgan Alexander, Ralph Harrison, Jon Ketler, Jack Connelly,
Erik Bjornson, Dan Besett, Bill Evans, Judi Quilici,
Rosalind Bell, Marilyn Kimmerling

by NineInchNachos on 7/12/2011 @ 12:57pm
Advanced Search Detailed Contributions: 1.usa.gov/pzl4Xw

by fredo on 7/12/2011 @ 1:46pm
"We can both agree that paying taxes is a reward. Progressive!" nin

The reward suggested by Anders' position statement is residency. If even Americans can't find jobs, how are the illegals going to become "tax-paying citizens" you mean by giving them even more jobs that are in short supply? How does that increase the tax supply? More poor people become an increased burden on social services but don't really supply any extra tax revenue that wouldn't have been created by American workers.

by fredo on 7/12/2011 @ 2:04pm
"Are you really so much better than those you rave against? " rick jones

Never said or implied I was any better. By accident of birth, I was born in a great country, the USA. My parents were born here as well. There may be better countries in the world but I don't belong there nor do I have permission to live there. I have permission to live here. People don't acquire a right to live in the US by virtue of being hungry, nor by virtue of wanting to live here. There are several billion people in 3rd world countries and a lot of them are probably hungry and would like to immigrate to the US. Would this be OK with you rick? Because you are so concerned with the "suffering" of others, tell us how many you would be willing to sponsor? Please be generous, I'm sure there is room in your home for 100 Bangladeshi's.

RE: the illegals who are unwilling to wait their turn all I can say is "why are their needs and desires more worthy of advancement than those who ARE willing to wait?"

RE: your claim that all illegals are coming into the US because they are "starving" I was wondering if you can provide any evidence of this or was this just an opportunity to practice some dramatic rhetoric?

by cisserosmiley on 7/12/2011 @ 2:28pm
Anders Ibsen: would you support changing city code to allow "gentlemens clubs" in tacoma to make tacoma a more walkable city?

by NineInchNachos on 7/12/2011 @ 2:47pm
Anders Ibsen: would you support NATO humanitarian peace airstrike bombing in Fredo City?

by fredo on 7/12/2011 @ 3:10pm
where's the love?

by fredo on 7/12/2011 @ 3:42pm
"Anders Ibsen: would you support NATO humanitarian peace airstrike bombing in Fredo City?"

It's too late. Just this afternoon I covered FC with a large picture of RR's brain. Nothing can penetrate that.

by Erik on 7/12/2011 @ 4:30pm
The mojo laden smoke from the chainsaw rules!

by Rick Jones on 7/12/2011 @ 4:49pm
For me it's really simple Fredo: Some came here illegally, worked the jobs we didn't want (and still, regardless of the economy, don't want because we're too lazy, spoiled and entitled), were used for their cheap labor as suited their employers, and now, that the economy has tanked, we resent for taking jobs that we don't want anyway.

As I'm sure you know, most of these illegals pay taxes.

Yes it was "dramatic rhetoric." I should have known better dealing with you. But you never addressed my first supposition: Would you break the U.S. law to improve the condition of your family? Would you cross the border illegally to drastically improve the living conditions for your family? It's a "yes" or "no" Fredo and will say a lot about you. I know you want qualifiers and, perhaps mitigating circumstances; but "yes" or "no?"

I'm not sure why I should care that your parents were born here. Your point is? My parents were born here too. I can't remember the last time I told anyone.

You don't have permission to live here, it's your right. Committing a felony can relieve you of a few of those rights (voting, owning a concealed weapon, etc) but not your citizenship.

As to the 100 Bangladeshis (no apostrophe, not a possessive)...no I can't take care of 100 Bangladeshis. Stupid premise meant to misdirect to argument. I can't take care of 100 stray dogs. But I can contribute to taking care of one. And that's a start. If we all take care of one we can only improve life on Earth. May seem Pollyanna but it doesn't prevent it from being true. Who are you taking care of (besides family)? What community orgs are you involved with?

"why are their needs and desires more worthy of advancement than those who ARE willing to wait?" I didn't mean to indicate that they are. But they're already here and already contributing. I say find a way to include them rather than send them back. We are strong and generous enough to handle it and I believe they will become among the strongest US citizens. Who would allow indentured servants today? Yet it was legal in the 1700's. Many of those 'servants' (time-prescribed slaves) became the citizens who fought for our liberty. So what is your problem with 'back-loading' illegal aliens with a form of citizenship? They're here, they want to be here, they provide a work force we want and have used for decades, why dismantle this? If it's as simple as "it's against the law" then I completely understand.




by NineInchNachos on 7/12/2011 @ 5:00pm
Rick Jones, fredo's beliefs are hardly worth all those paragraphs. Noble effort though. Thanks for your comments!

by NineInchNachos on 7/12/2011 @ 5:01pm
see everybody at the council meeting tonight!

by fredo on 7/12/2011 @ 5:06pm
"So what is your problem with 'back-loading' illegal aliens with a form of citizenship?"

Once you provide a reward or benefit to someone for breaking the law you encourage others to do the same. We're having enough trouble trying to prevent the illegals from crossing the border. Why make the transgression even more beneficial?

"I'm sure you know, most of these illegals pay taxes"

Could you please cite your source for this? Do you mean that the taxes they pay into the system are greater than the benefits they draw out?

"Would I break the law to feed my starving family" probably yes



Would I move my family to a country I was not allowed to immigrate to and live in a parasitic lifestyle under the pretense of feeding my starving family? No

"they provide a workforce we want"

We may want this workforce (debateable) but we don't need them. Until about 50 years ago when the democrats started distributing entitlements around Americans did all the jobs we think we're too good to do now. We could do these jobs again and we should. People who can't find jobs after 99 weeks should start picking crops, installing drywall, or whatever.

by cisserosmiley on 7/12/2011 @ 5:44pm
' MERICA has enough that not everyone needs to be working at income grubbing...the immigration debate should hinge on social leverage not work quotients...if a 4'ner wanted to come to ' MERICA just to be a park bench philosopher it should be OK

by fredo on 7/12/2011 @ 6:01pm
MERICA has enough that not everyone needs to be working at income grubbing" cissero

right, pay no attention to the skyrocketing business failure rate, foreclosure rate, bankruptcy rate, tax delinquency rates, unemployment rates, homeless rates and news that the country might default on it's debt and cancel social security checks in the next three weeks. bring on those billions of third world park bench philosophers. we welcome the social leverage they provide.

by jenyum on 7/12/2011 @ 6:30pm
Tune in to TV Tacoma. Council may not renew Anderson's contract.

by jenyum on 7/12/2011 @ 6:33pm
Yup sounds like a majority of votes for no! Really wasn't expecting this at all.

by cisserosmiley on 7/12/2011 @ 6:46pm
well fredo, i will turn 65 in 2034 ... the same year SS is supposed to "run-out" of money ... why should i care about a bunch of 4'NER park bench philosophers when boomers have already ruined ' MERICA for me?

by jenyum on 7/12/2011 @ 6:46pm
That totally just happened. City Manager's contract not renewed by vote of 2 to 6, CM removed and interim City Manager appointed.

That was fast!

by fredo on 7/12/2011 @ 6:53pm
cissero, I won't be around any longer when you turn 65 but I want SS to be there for you. The boomers don't want to ruin America for anyone. I have two children in school still and I want a good country for them to enjoy and the prospect of some retirement income too, so I'm not going to do anything to destabilize the system. The people who are complicit in bringing millions of undocumented aliens into the country, on the other hand, are destabilizing our system. Don't blame the boomers, blame the progressives and their one world philosophy. Not everyone swimming across the border with a backpack full of cocaine is coming here to make the US a better country.

by jenyum on 7/12/2011 @ 6:59pm
Fredo, they just removed the City Manager. Can we talk about that for a while?

by fredo on 7/12/2011 @ 7:03pm
Are you kidding me! How did the voting go down on that? This is quite unbelieveable. Even the tribune hasn't published this yet.

by cisserosmiley on 7/12/2011 @ 7:04pm
fredo, i have equal criticism for both left and right
good bye city manager, you truely were deficient, but you made loads of money so sometimes i envy you

by jenyum on 7/12/2011 @ 7:07pm
I turned on TV Tacoma, disappointed that I had missed the billboard comment. Glad I didn't turn it off after that. The vote was 6 to 2 to not renew the contract, Walker and Lonergan were the only yes votes. (Manthou is recovering from heart surgery and was not present.)

by The Jinxmedic on 7/12/2011 @ 7:12pm
Wow. The council stood up to the great City Manager? Unbelievable.

by NineInchNachos on 7/12/2011 @ 7:47pm
hole lee crap! It looks like lying is REALLY never ever OK

tacomamama.com/content/city-manager-remo...

by NineInchNachos on 7/12/2011 @ 7:57pm
Now more than ever www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=160217894...

by fredo on 7/12/2011 @ 7:58pm
Hey jen, how come you said our immigration discussion was "going nowhere?" Rick Jones and Fredo were giving it a good going over, even cissero was posting and nachos too! It's all related to Anders Ibsens unfortunate position on the illegals and Anders is hoping to win a job on the city council.

by jenyum on 7/12/2011 @ 8:03pm
I just would rather talk about something else, I feel we've already pounded that discussion into a fine paste.

by fredo on 7/12/2011 @ 8:30pm
Jen you can always start a new discussion. Some of these FT discussions are pointless to me, but if other people enjoy them I say...post away!

by marumaruyopparai on 7/13/2011 @ 6:41pm
If you read carefully through Fredo's responses you will find he concedes a willingness to break the law to feed his starving family but is not willing to illegally immigrate to feed his starving family, did he not understand the question or is he contradicting himself for irony's (apostrophe possessive) sake?

Isn't breaking the law breaking the law? Or is immigration a deeper sin like a lost eleventh commandment?

by marumaruyopparai on 7/13/2011 @ 6:46pm
Also, I condemn this Tacomic in the strongest terms, I think all Star Wars pop culture references, however direct or indirect should be eschewed in protest of the cinematic abortion that was the eye bleedingly awful prequel trilogy. Suck it Lucas, unskilled illegal Mexican immigrant labor could have done a better job.

by fredo on 7/13/2011 @ 8:36pm
I don't concede that the main reason that illegals are coming into the US is because they want to feed their "starving families." Please cite a study which confirms this. They're coming here because its an easier life. Also, If I'm caught for stealing a loaf of bread to feed my kids I'll do my 30 days in jail. Are illegals willing to pay the consequences of their law breaking even if it means deportation? Certainly law breaking comes in different shades. Someone who steals a loaf of bread to feed a hungry family would be a slight nuisance to a society. Families which violate immigration law create a huge nuisance to society. Therefore illegal immigration is a "deeper sin"

by NineInchNachos on 7/25/2011 @ 9:10pm
Sold!

by NineInchNachos on 7/27/2011 @ 6:51pm
MEANWHILE: haven't realtors done enough damage? Don't buy this turd burger the TNT is selling!

www.thenewstribune.com/2011/07/27/176011...

by fredo on 7/27/2011 @ 7:19pm
Meanwhile: haven't community organizers done enough damage?

by NineInchNachos on 7/27/2011 @ 7:39pm
@fredo. We have yet begun to fight! :)

by fredo on 7/27/2011 @ 8:28pm
Enough liberals on the city council already. However, if Anders can adopt some more conservative postions I would be a supporter of his candidacy

by NineInchNachos on 7/27/2011 @ 8:47pm
Anders is firmly against Clear Channel billboards. I doubt you'd get that with anyone labeling themselves 'pro business, no studies'

by Erik on 7/27/2011 @ 11:14pm
Re: Anders and billboards.

Anders statement against billboards was refreshing very strong for a candidate.

I also note that he showed up at at least one public hearing and testified against digital billboards. That shows valor which Tacoma needs more of!

by fredo on 7/28/2011 @ 8:17am
I do like Anders stand on the digitals. But my favorite candidate is the one who will represent my view on almost every issue that's likely to come before the council.

It's worth pointing out that the billboard controversy, despite it's intense controversy, doesn't actually have much impact on the taxpayers one way or another. We don't get much revenue from the boards and won't lose much when they are gone.

The most important issue before the city is the adoption and application of the Premium Pay for all city employees policy. This policy requires the city to pay ABOVE AVERAGE pay rates to every city employee. This at a time when somewhere between 10 and 20 percent of Tacomans can't find work and we're suffering from a recession that's lasted 3 years and shows no sign of ending. The substantial overpayment to these 3000 prima donnas is going to topple our city eventually.

by cisserosmiley on 7/28/2011 @ 9:33am
the list of endorsements on smithermans statement is basically an iron clad repulsion of these other three. liars Inc probably picked Atkinson because they want him to be their realtor and sell the building they no longer need. The west side likely will vote for the "machine" candidate...this sliver of Tacoma is not ready to choose their own council person.

by fredo on 7/28/2011 @ 9:45am
Smitherman and Ibsen share one important deficiency. Neither one has any real private sector experience.

Regarding the sponsers listed in the voters guide, Anders lists Jack Connelly. That's the guy who's always suing the taxpayers for millions of dollars. Is that a good thing?

Smitherman lists Jeannie Darneille and Debbie Regala and Jake Fey. That's like the three stooges of the Democratic Party.

by cisserosmiley on 7/28/2011 @ 9:57am
yes fredo...don't forget bill baarsma, dennis flannigan, and art wang...these three are enough in that district, add in senator regala, representative darneille, and jake fey and this is over. i don't want it this way exactly, im just pretty sure when art wang steps on the gas in your neighborhood, fredo, the motor revs...

by NineInchNachos on 8/1/2011 @ 12:31pm
vote Anders Ibsen!




the ONLY candidate endorsed by Amocat Cafe/Tacoma Streetcar Morgan Alexander AND the Tacoma Urbanist


a VOTE for ANDERS IBSEN is a vote for my wife's sexy legs !

by NineInchNachos on 8/1/2011 @ 12:37pm
Anders has been chosen as THE BEST DOOR BELL OPERATOR in the south puget sound by Weekly Volcano readers!

www.weeklyvolcano.com/entertainment/guid...

BREAKING! also boycott the weekly volcano by NOT clicking on the above link.

by fredo on 8/1/2011 @ 2:08pm
He is a good door-beller to be sure. If things don't work out in the election maybe he can sell fuller brushes or watchtower magazines.

by cisserosmiley on 8/1/2011 @ 2:35pm
i dont knoow why rr boycotts the volcano-i will not be clicking on this link because:
half the time it does not work

by NineInchNachos on 8/1/2011 @ 3:47pm
sometimes I wonder.

by Erik on 8/16/2011 @ 10:07pm
Anders gets first place tonight. This Tacomic had quite the influence!


www.thenewstribune.com/news/election/res...

by NineInchNachos on 8/16/2011 @ 10:29pm
the tacomic is NEVER wrong!

by NineInchNachos on 8/17/2011 @ 8:15am
THE NEW TAKHOMAN is back with a pro-ibsen cartoon!


by fredo on 8/17/2011 @ 11:16am
The cartoon is funny, it makes fun not only of Manthou and Smitherman, but Ibsen as well. I didn't see anything to indicate that the person writing it was "pro-Ibsen"

by NineInchNachos on 8/17/2011 @ 11:24am
the "independent attorney" quip was practically an endorsement !

by NineInchNachos on 8/17/2011 @ 11:26am
this is awesome!


by NineInchNachos
on 8/17/2011 @ 8:11am Anders needs to get the Carl + Joe voters to go Ibsen, any ideas?

by Camaratii
on 8/17/2011 @ 9:07am He could reiterate Atkinson's position on how badly Planet of the Apes sucked...maybe throw in a reference to closed streetcar loops too?

by NineInchNachos on 9/26/2011 @ 1:17pm


let Anders Ibsen dig a hole in your heart. VOTE ANDERS IBSEN! HE'S SHOVEL READY!

by fredo on 9/26/2011 @ 3:25pm
only Anders knows where all the bodies are buried.

by NineInchNachos on 10/31/2011 @ 1:25pm
ANDERS would NEVER use the N-Word!  www.thenewstribune.com/2011/10/29/188552...

which I assume stands for nincompoop  as in Joe Lonergan is a Nincompoop. 

by JesseHillFan on 10/31/2011 @ 1:30pm
Ibsen does have the appearance of a young Richard Nixon.


by Erik on 12/29/2011 @ 1:25am


Here is the video of Anders being sworn into office:www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y76TmpjUDo&...

by NineInchNachos on 9/7/2012 @ 7:57am
Anders Endorses Obama on my FB: !!!!



I'm voting for Obama. Mitt
Romney would be a nightmare. But to deny that Obama governs as a
conservative (despite campaigning like a progressive) is delusional.
Some of Obama's more Republican signatures:

1. Continuing the Bush tax cuts. When the Democrats still technically had a majority in both chambers.

2. Expanding the Bush-era abuses of executive power by asserting the
president has the right to unilaterally order the assassination of US
citizens.
3. Deporting more than twice the amount of immigrants as Bush.
4. Responding to the Gulf oil spill by -expanding- offshore oil drilling.

5. Requiring people to buy health insurance from private corporations,
as advocated by Mitt Romney, the Heritage Foundation, Newt Gingrich, and
Bob Dole at various points.
6. Continuing the Bush-era bailouts; refusing to prosecute ANYONE on Wall Street for the crash.

7. Stuffing his cabinet full of corporate lobbyists. The biggest
offenses being his appointment of dozens of Goldman Sachs executives in
the Treasury Department and a Monsanto - I repeat, Monsanto - vice
president as a key counsel for the Department of Health.
8. Appointing a "deficit commission" stuffed with Wall Street ideologues who want to privatize Social Security and Medicare.
9. Support for charter schools...and private vouchers.



(that's why I'm voting for Obama too!)



by fredo on 9/7/2012 @ 8:02am
  Anders endorses Obama.

Isn't Anders on the city council of a city with an $11,000,000 budget deficit?

I can understand the affinity.

by cisserosmiley on 9/7/2012 @ 8:23am
America is flawed...do your best for yourself, always lend a hand, and vote.

by low bar on 9/7/2012 @ 5:16pm
federal grants should patch the budget hole for tacoma. and they'll take and use the money just like ryan did:) perhaps police and fire could save money by not patrolling and providing fire safety to the private property of fredo and his constituents. just tally up the number of property owned by republicans and save money by disregarding these businesses and homes;)


by low bar on 9/7/2012 @ 5:47pm



by fredo on 9/7/2012 @ 7:20pm


i phones are made in china. do democrats use them. i wonder.

by NineInchNachos on 9/7/2012 @ 7:36pm
Mitt Romney believes in America by hiding his money in Swiss bank accounts

by cisserosmiley on 1/16/2013 @ 6:20pm
18,582.7 miles in 9 years on my buick, less than 2100 miles a year, barely enough to even say I have a car. Now, pothole induced blown tire...