11/20/07 - Go Local! Tacoma

posted Nov 20, 2007
THE TACOMIC - 11/20/07 - Go Local! Tacoma ()
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by Erik on 11/20/2007 @ 10:16am
Very cool RR. Worth framing.

Tacomic is now drawing some of the power of the superhero genre. Using signs from businesses as heads is working pretty well and requires no labels.

by thriceallamerican on 11/20/2007 @ 10:24am
Slapsgiving turkey-hand, anyone?

by jenyum on 11/20/2007 @ 11:43am

by NineInchNachos on 11/20/2007 @ 11:54am
inspiration for this cartoon:

first captain america cover...
captain america 1

mixed with aeon flux/lady tacoma...
aeon flux

with a dab of WW1 propaganda poster
every girl puling for victory

combined with the tragedy of the tacoma mall
tacoma maul

also extra credit for Erik for making comparison with unfinished section of Tacoma mall with unfinished death star from Return of the Jedi

by NineInchNachos on 11/20/2007 @ 11:57am
another instance of the "double cross" arm bands:

double cross

by NineInchNachos on 11/20/2007 @ 12:01pm
man I like aeon flux. Now there's an interesting cartoon!

by Erik on 4/4/2008 @ 1:26pm
Downtown Tacoma has a mere 6 months to prepare:

New Nordstrom store to open Oct. 3 at Tacoma Mall

The bigger, better Nordstrom under construction on the west side of the Tacoma Mall will open to shoppers Oct. 3.

The building, which replaces a defunct Mervyn’s store, now looks like a Nordstrom store with big letters displaying the retailer’s name.

The new 144,000-square-foot Nordstrom is part of a mall-wide renovation that will turn the old Nordstrom building into a lifestyle center with new shops and restaurants.

Nordstrom spokeswoman Kendall Bingham said this week that the company is still working on the plan for the new store but some of the additional square feet (the current Nordstrom store is 131,000 square feet) would be devoted to high-end designers that shoppers couldn’t find in Tacoma previously.

by Erik on 7/15/2008 @ 12:18pm
Looks like the Mall got hammered:

The union went on strike in early July to protest the proposed contract terms. The strike shut down construction sites in Pierce County including St. Anthony Hospital in Gig Harbor and the new Nordstrom at the Tacoma Mall.

by thriceallamerican on 7/15/2008 @ 12:23pm
Erik, I think you'll be glad to hear that a mall trip the other day revealed a boarded-up Thomas Kinkade store. (Please no one tell me they just moved, that will ruin my fun).

Apparently it's not only the local galleries having trouble. Even ridiculous schlock art aimed at middle America is failing to actually pull in money around here...

by Erik on 7/15/2008 @ 12:32pm
Erik, I think you'll be glad to hear that a mall trip the other day revealed a boarded-up Thomas Kinkade store.

A bit. But it will make RR Anderson's year.

Now all of that money can be funneled into local arts. We'll see.

by escaping slave on 7/15/2008 @ 1:04pm
The third mall from the sun; Bill Hicks had it right.

People admit to going to the mall? Must be casing the joint.

by thriceallamerican on 7/15/2008 @ 1:52pm
I know, I know. Hard to beat Nordstrom for shoe selection, though.

by escaping slave on 7/15/2008 @ 1:54pm
Thrice, that's just what they count on...your weakness.

by Erik on 7/15/2008 @ 3:00pm
Thrice, that's just what they count on...your weakness.

I suppose.

by deeble interactive on 7/15/2008 @ 3:09pm
unions are fronts for the commies. And say what you want about Thomas Kinkade, atleast he was able to take something worthless like art and make decent money from it.

by thriceallamerican on 7/15/2008 @ 3:14pm
Thrice, that's just what they count on...your weakness.

Hey, man, I'm all about less stuff and supporting local businesses, but don't you think it's better to buy quality shoes than crappy shoes that are going to fall apart at Payless or Walmart?

Not to mention the fact that, multi-nationalism aside, Nordstrom is locally founded and owned.

To match the range of choices, you're basically talking about mail-ordering via Zappos,, or Endless, and other than Endless (owned by Amazon), you're basically talking about a choice that has much less to offer to our local economy.

Also, I'm not sure why buying what are essentially necessities would be considered weakness. (Not saying I'm not weak, necessarily, just that I don't see the connection here...)

And who the hell are "they"?

by deeble interactive on 7/15/2008 @ 3:49pm
this ones for you slave:

by escaping slave on 7/15/2008 @ 4:26pm
I understand supporting the store and that's great that people support local business. Great argument! Nordstroms is online now. Why go to the mall if you don't have to?

I meant the mall owners as "they." They count on people coming to the mall to keep the mall in business; they count on people "needing" things, whether or not they're necessities; and they do count on people being weak, even though it's not you. Not much different than Indians and their casinos; they count on the same things.

If malls aren't good, why do people go? You may need something, but what's more important: your needs or your principles? These days, principles come second it seems.

by ensie on 7/15/2008 @ 8:02pm
ES - where do you buy your local shoes? Also, where do you suggest I buy my local shoes, and I'm talking about a variety, as I do want (as opposed to need, I'm giving in on that one) a good selection of shoes.

I'm not trying to pick a fight or argue for the sake of arguing; I genuinely want to know. I'm not familiar with a local Tacoma company that makes shoes in a variety of styles that would work for me or a number of people that I know.

This again walks the slippery slope of "go local". Is it in your town? Your region? Your state? Your country? Your solar system? Is it better to be cruelty-free instead of local (some would say yes)?

Also, I don't think it's a question of malls being "good" or not; malls are convenient for people looking for something and wanting a variety of sources to browse through. It's similar to searching the internet for an item, but with instant access to the products. You can try on your shoes (or whatever) and carry them home with you - no waiting.

For a lot of people principles have to be set aside for the sake of money, access, and time. When families are working hard to feed their families and afford transportation they have to choose the cheapest and most convenient point of sale available. That's why you're seeing more and more WalMarts and strip malls.

by escaping slave on 7/16/2008 @ 6:29am
As for a Tacoma company that actually makes shoes, you got me. Maybe someone else has that answer.

Everybody has a different battle: drive less, shop local, natural fibers, non-corporation, non-sweat shop, etc. I personally don't care for malls because they take away my rights as a citizen, which makes me a subject. If I choose to shop local stores, I can walk in, armed as it is my right (because if a bad guy is armed in there, don't you want a good guy armed in there to fight back?), and not be hassled for it. If you wanted to shoot people, wouldn't you go somewhere where you know people aren't armed? Malls are just not safe to me and not worth the risk.

For local stores that sell shoes, depending on what you need, here is what I know at the moment and hopefully others have more to add:

South Sound Running in Tacoma and Olympia, if you're in the area. The store next to SSR in Olympia is a health food store and they also sell shoes there:, that's why I suggest it if you're in the area. SSR also has top quality service, on the Nordstrom level, even though I never received service as good as this at Nordstrom's.

There's REI and Backpacker's Supply. Local bicycle shops sell bike shoes.

All thrift stores sell shoes: Goodwill, Salvation Army, Value Village, Bargain World. Those stores also support charities, and it's recycling and reusing, which we all seem to love in this "green" world nowadays.
It's also summertime, meaning garage sale time. Lots of people cleaning out their places and not everything's crummy. It takes time, but if you know there's some in one area, you can hit a few and not travel far. It's like a treasure hunt, never knowing what you might find.

There's Lover's (Package) and they definitely sell shoes, so I'd assume Hustler would sell shoes too like Lover's.

On 6th Ave. there's some newer clothing store; they had shoes out at Art on the Ave. on sale. There's also other little boutiques along 6th Ave. that I haven't checked out yet so I don't know what they have, but boutiques usually sell shoes to go with their clothes. You can always call first to find out, and then make a trip of hitting stores in one area. In Proctor there's a couple specialty boutiques and an orthopedic shoe store, as well as a baby store with shoes and clothing. There's Stadium district and downtown shops too. Boutiques are all over these days.

There used to be Commencement Bay Birkenstock and another shoe store downtown, but both are gone now.

Convenience, (i.e., ease), and principles do not mix, so if you take one, you're usually giving up the other. I understand convenience. I love convenience. I love I don't have to make shoes and clothing, hunt and gather, supply and maintain my own energy. But don't be surprised if someday that's all there is - convenience, and no principles. I see it more everyday, because it's simply easier to give in to convenience than to stand up for one's principles. Simple fact of human nature.

Good luck with your shoe shopping!

by ensie on 7/16/2008 @ 9:36am
Thanks ES. I've shopped at SSR and REI for shoes. I tend to think of REI and its local-ness on the same level as Nordstrom, as it's based in the Pacific Northwest, but has expanded all over the place. I picked up a pair of used KEENs at a local store that are the best shoes I've ever owned.

I haven't had a chance to check out the new store - The Shoe Show - on 6th Ave., but I am looking forward to it.

I'm actually a big believer in re-using, and will search eBay, Freecycle (an excellent resource if you haven't checked it out), and craigslist for items as needed.

Convenience and principles can mix, sometimes. Check out things like SPUD, which delivers fresh, organic, (mostly) locally sourced groceries to your door on a regular schedule. Definitely convenient, and in line with a lot of my principles. So it's not all black and white.

by jenyum on 7/16/2008 @ 10:09am
Terra Organics! Local-er, they are based right here in Tacoma, run by a couple that met working at Terry's Berries.

by ensie on 7/16/2008 @ 11:56am
Thanks Jen! I couldn't remember the name of the organization we talked about last week. Terra Organics just does fruits and veggies, while SPUD does breads and milk products as well, and they cater to special dietary needs, which is cool. Depending on what exactly you want, you can find an organization that is both convenient and fits with your principles.

by NineInchNachos on 7/16/2008 @ 1:00pm
once i tried to make shoes out of an old tire. it's a lot harder than it looks. Now I go barefoot most of the time.

by Erik on 7/16/2008 @ 1:22pm
Daniel Blue has some good commentary on the issue today in terms of the Tacoma Food Co-Op:

I have never been more terrified of America in my life.

Don’t they mean: “spend money here, live like idiots”? Is life better when your children are walking billboards for Billy Ray Cyrus’s daughter? After 19 years of, “Always Low Prices”, I thought that the ability to cash my stimulus check at Wal-Mart was cool, but this?

This is pure and unadulterated golden royal jelly fat puss soaked phlegm barf runoff waste ditch sick sick sick.

Thank you Tacoma, for not having a Wal-Mart.

Tell us what you really think Daniel!

by Erik on 10/1/2008 @ 2:11pm
Update: Exit 133 coverage on the opening:

As for the evening, it was quite an event. The music was great. The food and drinks were amazing. (Personally, I like the idea of a gin and tonic while visiting the mall. It makes the whole experience a bit easier.)