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Ocryx and Joe observe Mission Creep in the Occupy crowd

Be Uniters, not Dividers...
posted Oct 26, 2011
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What's been happening to the "Occupy" crowd? As the movement grows, it has been attracting all sorts of people- many of them who are not actually constructive to the movement. For the Occupy movement to remain valid, it will be necessary to self-police what is being said- otherwise, it risks losing 85% of the 99%. Stay focused on the key issues- Bailouts for Banks, Big Government in league with Corporations, Banks, and Unions- Congress making themselves immune from laws that affect normal citizens- you get the idea.

The amazing thing is that the Tea Party movement and the OWS movement were both started as a response to similar grievances - attacking the other group weakens the argument and marginalizes the protests. In order for these to become real movements that work together for actual change (not just a campaign slogan from someone who thought the presidency was a prize to be won, not a job to be performed), they need to come together on the points that they share in common. Otherwise, that "1%" that you are complaining about just sits back and laughs- because a divided movement poses no risk whatsoever to the status quo.

We give kudos to the "Occupy Tacoma" organizers for creating the most civil (and cleanest!) of all the national OWS protests. Don't let all this effort and energy become marginalized- it's not too late to become uniters, not dividers...


by fredo on 10/26/2011 @ 7:48am


Like your comment and wonderful cartoon jinx.

by The Jinxmedic on 10/26/2011 @ 8:23am
Thanks, Fredo! I actually debated putting a "Fredo City Annex" sign next to the tents...
 

by NineInchNachos on 10/26/2011 @ 8:27am
What you describe here is not a bug, but a feature.  You may have noticed that there is bio-diversity amongst the humans?  Well why should the movement to liberate humanity be any less diverse?   
Love the richard scary / wheres waldo feel of this cartoon!   

by The Jinxmedic on 10/26/2011 @ 8:43am
Thanks! There's nothing wrong with diversity. But as you well know, you must have consensus on common points with the greater percentage of the population to form a successful movement.
Attacking people who are potentially part of your base (i.e. rank-and-file Tea Party people fed up with corrupt government) does not make your movement stronger.
 
Here is a nice Venn Diagram from soapboxgod.blogspot.com:

by NineInchNachos on 10/26/2011 @ 8:54am
exactly!   UNITED WE STAND!!!!   :) 

by The Jinxmedic on 10/26/2011 @ 8:56am
(If it's in a Venn Diagram, it has to be good.)
 

by fredo on 10/26/2011 @ 9:01am


I do think there is some common ground between the tea party movement and the occupy wall street movement.  I can't speak for either group however, I'll bet most members of both groups would favor jail time for the people who caused the wall street meltdown. If criminal charges can't be sustained then at the very least nobody who works for a bailed out company should be paid anything more than a living wage and there should be no bonuses.

by NineInchNachos on 10/26/2011 @ 9:02am
It's hard though, i've unclenched my fist and extended my #occupytacoma hand to all my tea-party conservative gay activist twitter comrades, and all they do is post andrew breitbart links calling the occupy kids 1930's proto-nazis.   it's like there is a conspiracy to keep the people squabbling amongst themselves and lose focus on the dangerous criminals running the military-commerical-industrial-government-complex.   

by The Jinxmedic on 10/26/2011 @ 9:11am
There you are- if both sides were to meet in the middle, the combined movement would be unstoppable- which is exactly why it is in the best interest of the Government, Banks, and Corporations to keep everyone squabbling among themselves.

by NineInchNachos on 10/26/2011 @ 9:12am
matt bors!  mattbors.com/archives/811.html

by The Jinxmedic on 10/26/2011 @ 9:13am
Nice link!

By the way, this is why the Occupy Tacoma movement is better than those in other cities- it's civil, friendly, and sanitary (so far.) 

by jenyum on 10/26/2011 @ 9:25am
It's virtually impossible to self-police the message.  I gave it a shot and just ended up feeling like a tiny Joseph Stalin inside of me was about to leap out and purge the next person who made an off-topic or deliberately divisive comment at a meeting.  
It's a very diverse movement, and I agree that this is a good thing.  More power to anyone who can stick with it through those General Assemblies, I'm keeping my inner dictator at home for now, where it's easy to stay on-message.  The reality of democracy is a heck of a lot messier than it reads on the Internet.  Thankfully.

by jenyum on 10/26/2011 @ 9:40am
Part of the reason Tacoma's movement is so friendly is that they haven't had much (or really any) confrontation with authorities.  Unfortunately, that's not the case everywhere:

www.ktvu.com/video/29587714/index.html

I think a more unified message comes out of this type of conflict, it's a much more serious matter when arrests are made and people are getting hurt.  For now, the need to circle the wagons is not so important so long as the group is there showing solidarity. 

by fredo on 10/26/2011 @ 9:49am


I see a danger to having a society where there are huge numbers of young people who feel like there is no future for them and they resort to flash mob violence of the type seen in London and elsewhere. We need to do a much much better job to make sure there are some entry level jobs for people who want to begin building a future for themselves. They don't need to be paid handsomely, just need to feel they have value and purpose.

by NineInchNachos on 10/26/2011 @ 9:54am
as Eric Anderson's treachery of a 26 million dollar hole reveals itself in mass layoffs and social program cutbacks the #occupytacoma movement will grow.    A police crackdown will only throw gasoline on the hearts of men and women. 


by fredo on 10/26/2011 @ 10:02am


The current council members voted, unanimously in most cases, to give Anderson everything he asked for. His advice may have been bad but it was their job to review the facts and make the decisions. Some of the elected council members talk a tough game in the press but when called upon to speak up to the city manager they have the timidity of mice.

by NineInchNachos on 10/26/2011 @ 11:31am
they are spoonfed info by the city manager... heck Joe Lonergan is the new fall guy of the legal department!  Adding loopholes for Walmart to sneak through and woodards, manthou and strickland using poor joe as a human shield.  It unsettles the tummy!  
MEANWHILE... field agent andrew pics
flic.kr/p/azeUak
flic.kr/p/azeTP4
flic.kr/p/azeTsV


by NineInchNachos on 10/26/2011 @ 1:12pm
just imagine how the movement will grow when the deadlocked super committee triggers the across the board cuts to defense and social programs!   Time for the people to arise is nigh 

by NineInchNachos on 10/26/2011 @ 1:45pm
I mean come on !  this is just obscene.   
www.democracynow.org/2011/10/26/police_f...

www.democracynow.org/2011/10/26/glenn_gr...

www.democracynow.org/2011/10/26/glenn_gr...

by The Jinxmedic on 10/26/2011 @ 3:11pm
Dyslexics Untie!

by low bar on 10/26/2011 @ 4:31pm
Like the smurf village around capital lake is growing. I wonder who is papa smurf? like how many tax breaks do you have to give to the job creators w/o also requiring no job thus go overseas? give the smurfs a 16 dollar an hour wage, mr howell, no matter how dirty the work, so we can all get on with our lives......

by NineInchNachos on 10/26/2011 @ 4:35pm
smurfs is an interesting direction.  You should see the comments on OccupyTacoma facebook group! 

by jenyum on 10/26/2011 @ 5:08pm
An Iraq war vet was critically injured last night in the Occupy Oakland raid, by what witnesses say was a tear gas cylinder thrown by police.

There is video showing that when other protesters rushed in to help him, something like a flash bang grenade was thrown to drive them away.
thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/26/upd...

by low bar on 10/26/2011 @ 5:24pm
the government gargamels get paid enough it seems to assault veterans. every man seems to have his price.  

by JesseHillFan on 10/26/2011 @ 7:21pm
There were some U.S. Presidents who dealt a strong hand against the 1 %
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Roosevelt...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Howard_Taf...

Don't fight well organized police forces (or any enemy) on their own terms
With the right technology you can win easily against great odds (I have and many numerous times too) to the great dismay and humiliation of tyrants.



by The Jinxmedic on 10/26/2011 @ 8:13pm
Tyrants Untie!
 

by The Jinxmedic on 10/26/2011 @ 9:37pm
(I am a huge fan of Teddy Roosevelt, by the way. Now HE was a president.)

by mossguy on 10/26/2011 @ 10:24pm
Really good stuff, jm!
to JesseHillFan:  Taft was next to nothing compared to Theodore Roosevelt.  Taft was responsible for watering down and disappearing the works of Teddy.

by mossguy on 10/26/2011 @ 10:26pm
I wonder if I could find an artist to draw me an avatar.

by NineInchNachos on 10/26/2011 @ 11:01pm
Franklin D. Roosevelt knew how to fly an auto-gyro...  in the funny pages at least.  Drink your ovaltine !  

by Jesse on 10/27/2011 @ 8:16am
@LowBar:  It's not just you, but I wish the public would quit calling the filthy rich "job creators".  If you're at the point where you are in the top 1% of income earners, in todays economy, you do probably create jobs... in China... in practical slave labor manufacturing.

abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/top-percents-in...

"Job Creators" = Filthy Rich

"Low Cost Overseas Manufacturing" = Todays Slavery

by low bar on 10/27/2011 @ 10:21am
if china was only more like sweden we wouldn't have to deal with their asses so much. like if every american would stop buying made in china or anywhere else crap, it would just cause china to go fucking crazy and shitcan their economy. 
i'm not trying to look like a filthy hipster but those made in america clothes at american apparel keep looking better and better.
i guess we're all fucked because a majority of americans don't give a rats ass. i don't want to say its because of their religion or ethnicity but every time i go by the capital lake occupy i hardy see anything but stuff white people like. 
stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/

by NineInchNachos on 10/27/2011 @ 10:26am
sick www.democracynow.org/2011/10/27/iraq_war...

by The Jinxmedic on 10/27/2011 @ 11:02am
Yes, welcome to THE FUTURE. If history is any judge, things will get much worse before it gets better.
 

by NineInchNachos on 10/27/2011 @ 11:08am
via Coffee Strong: "Iraq Veteran Scott Olsen Could Be The First Person To Die At A Wall Street Protest"

www.businessinsider.com/this-veteran-cou...


by low bar on 10/27/2011 @ 11:29am
I don't think scott is going to count worms. he's a marine so a little swollen brain isn't going to make a difference.


stuff white people like: tacoma

hahahahha


my girlfriend is going to have to cut her hair. when you go to scratch your balls and pull out a twenty inch long dark hair that stuck to your underwear whilst in the dryer, you know its time to encourage her to get that Amelie hair cut she's been talking about for the past few months. 

by The Jinxmedic on 10/27/2011 @ 11:56am
For the record, everything said in the last panel of this comic we actually overheard onsite. (yes, I will admit that  I embellished the oatmeal cookie comment, but it just reads better that way...)

by NineInchNachos on 10/27/2011 @ 12:08pm
I am skeptical of the JinxMedic claim as two of the balloons are thought bubbles.  Unless you're Sookie Stackhouse, how do you overhear thoughts?  

by The Jinxmedic on 10/27/2011 @ 12:23pm
You don't have the gift?
I'm sorry.

by NineInchNachos on 10/27/2011 @ 2:06pm
maybe a surge to purge ?  www.radioopensource.org/jeff-sachs-the-e...


by The Jinxmedic on 10/27/2011 @ 3:02pm
A most excellent article which accurately reflects the aims of the vMSDE, in fact.
 

by JesseHillFan on 2/17/2012 @ 7:11am
Bad news for the occupy crowd.Seems that they goofed.
Occupy Tacoma encampment's power is out, probably for good
Read more here: www.thenewstribune.com/2012/02/16/202943...www.thenewstribune.com/2012/02/16/202943... 

by NineInchNachos on 2/17/2012 @ 8:10am
go solar!

by JesseHillFan on 2/17/2012 @ 8:40am
I'm probably going to do that for my electric bike later this year.The occupy crowd should have used pedal power for a generator.

by NineInchNachos on 2/17/2012 @ 9:13am
should check this out on 3rd thursday www.thenewstribune.com/2012/02/17/202972...