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Ocryx and Joe in "City Survey!"
Because the City really wants to know what we think- right?
posted Aug 25, 2010
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Our friend Stumpy somehow finds a hard copy of the City's Citizen Climate Assessment Survey, but is discouraged by Joe's pessimism. What to do?
Comments [25]
 by KevinFreitas on 8/25/2010 @ 6:55am | Here's that link again: www.n-r-c.com/survey/tacoma.htm |
 by NineInchNachos on 8/25/2010 @ 8:06am | Poor Ol' Stumpy he's always being picked on. |
 by fredo on 8/25/2010 @ 8:29am | What is the purpose of the survey?
1. To help guide the council in it's decision making process or 2. To provide some highly paid city staffers with some busy work while making the public think their opinions are of some import? Looks like O&J are just as confused as everybody else. |
by fredo on 8/25/2010 @ 8:32am | The position of the city council frequently reflects the fact that they just don't care what the citizens want. Polling reflected that the citizens didn't want the city involved with Arizona politics or digital billboards...yet now we've got both! |
 by The Jinxmedic on 8/25/2010 @ 8:41am | The survey is all multiple choice- sample question: "I feel that the City Council listens to the opinions of the citizens- (choose one) Agree, Strongly Agree, Super Strongly Agree, Completely Super Strongly Agree, Anyone who doesn't Agree is a Doody-head"
BTW, The is no way to add comments on the on-line version of the survey. On the paper survey, you have to write in the margins if you have something specific to say. (Fredo, write small.) |
by The Jinxmedic on 8/26/2010 @ 1:00pm | Anyone else having difficulty with the on-line version of the survey? |
by NineInchNachos on 8/26/2010 @ 2:07pm | How many of you lied about having elderly persons in your home? |
 by Crenshaw Sepulveda on 8/26/2010 @ 8:56pm | I confess, I'm harboring a large number of the elderly in my apt. |
by The Jinxmedic on 8/27/2010 @ 9:02am | The online survey does not lie!
It's a trap!  |
by fredo on 8/27/2010 @ 9:06am | The survey can only be submitted by households which have at least 1 person aged 65 or older living in them. IMO this would not only deprive most people in Tacoma from participating in the survey, but would also skew the results. Garbage in garbage out. Further evidence of your tax dollars hard at work. |
by Crenshaw Sepulveda on 8/27/2010 @ 9:26am | The Jinxmedic, why did you post a picture of Joe Lonergan? Was this survey his idea? |
by KevinFreitas on 8/27/2010 @ 10:43am | Eesh, it's a long one. I'm never a fan of such bloated surveys. Break it up on to bite-sized chunks over time. I may see about taking the time this weekend but, really, that doesn't appeal either. |
by fredo on 8/27/2010 @ 11:11am | Kevin, the survey is too long and many topics are presented over and over. Yet other, very important topics are ignored. Here's a question that the survey should have asked:
At a time when the city's finances are in disarray, when city positions are going unfilled for lack of funding, when the nation is gripped in a recession and when unemployment and foreclosures are spiraling out of control should the city continue paying premium salaries to it's employees? This might create a response that city leaders don't want to hear. |
 by Thorax O'Tool on 8/27/2010 @ 11:21am | I filled it out, despite the limitations of having no one over 65 or 17 & under in my humble apartment.
I answered honestly. In the education/youth services/senior services questions, I chose "don't know" because I really don't. However, they Mayor will find that I'm unhappy with the city's growth and growth plans, I am unhappy with the direction downtown is going and I rated them as not caring at all what the citizens think. However, they will be pleased to find that I rate their performance slightly higher than the dismal rating I gave the State and Federal governments. |
by fredo on 8/27/2010 @ 11:30am | thorax, good post.
if people have to engage in dishonesty in order to submit the survey, then what assurance is there that the results of the survey are an honest appraisal of Tacomas attitudes? Isn't it standard for surveys such as this to undergo at least cursury beta testing to make sure they are correct in every respect? |
 by thriceallamerican on 8/27/2010 @ 11:34am | For the children/elderly questions, I figured out that indeed you can't enter "0", but you CAN leave it empty. |
by fredo on 8/27/2010 @ 11:41am | thrice, this mistake should have been caught in the design stage. This survey wouldn't have even made a passing grade in college level market research. |
by fredo on 8/27/2010 @ 11:54am | Newly discovered! You can submit as many surveys as you want. And you don't have to respond to any of the questions whatsoever, just respond to the ones you want. My daughters are earning $20 each for submitting surveys all afternoon with the responses I've desired on each one. They earn lunch money, and I get the survey results that suit me.
Classic win-win situation. People who complain that the tribnet hot button polling is flawed ain't seen nothin' yet. |
by thriceallamerican on 8/27/2010 @ 12:32pm | If you really want your daughters to learn something, you should have them program a script or macro to do the submitting for them...
And yes, stupid stuff like not including 0 as a valid response is pretty egregious. |
by Thorax O'Tool on 8/27/2010 @ 5:26pm | You know, I was able to enter in zero and had no problems.
For what it's worth, I'm running Firefox 3.6.8 on Kubuntu 10.4 |
by The Jinxmedic on 8/27/2010 @ 5:36pm | Did you divide by zero? I tried that once... |
by Thorax O'Tool on 8/27/2010 @ 5:44pm | With the power of Linux, anything is possible... even dividing by zero |
by The Jinxmedic on 8/28/2010 @ 9:51am | Hmmm... ...you should probably not get ANYWHERE NEAR a superconducting supercollider. |
by fredo on 10/26/2010 @ 6:27pm | The survey results are here:
blog.thenewstribune.com/politics/2010/10... |
by fredo on 10/26/2010 @ 6:39pm | Scoring low on the Tacoma opinion survey were:
Sidewalks Streets City Council Self image Probably no surprises there. |
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